Honda919_HelmetHair2I bought the Honda from new back in August 2003 and so far I’ve done more than 28.000 km (17.500 miles) on the motorcycle. It’s a very versatile machine good for both touring two-up full packed, fun with the lads on the back roads, and the occasional track-day. Not to mention reliable; never had any trouble with it. I trust that motorcycle more than I do the sun rising at dawn.

The mods
Honda_919_motorcycle_tourinNot many people have the same motorcycle for a few years without throwing in some mods. First thing I added was an original Honda flyscreen, which removes most of the wind pressure from your torso. A slightly wider and lower set of Renthal handlebars was added next, for a more forward leaned riding position. Last year I added slip-on Akrapovic exhausts and a Power Commander, which made it feel like a totally different motorcycle. The acceleration is now a smooth curve all the way to the top, where it had sought of a kick around 6000 revs before. The setup doesn’t give you a mentionable horsepower increase, for that you’d need a full exhaust system. These are just end cans, but the power commander gives better performance throughout the rev range and the sound of the cans is bloody nice.

Sport or touring?
Honda919_at_track_knutstorpI’ve considered replacing it with another motorcycle several times, but I always end up keeping it. Haven’t seen a bike yet that can do what the 919 can; I’d like a 600ccm race bike, but that will be awful for touring vacations, and a touring bike would be damn boring on a track-day. I think the 919 (hornet 900) is as close as you get to something in the middle. I’ve met a few other 919′s packed for touring, and I attended a track-day once where an instructor rode a Honda 919, so I guess I’m not the only one believing the motorcycle does those two things well.

Riding it
Honda_919_touringThe engine is and old CBR 900 Fireblade engine from before it became a CBR 1000, so only the meanest of race bikes will give you the rear wheel and, if that’s your game, you’ll have no problem pulling wheelies from traffic lights. The Honda 919 (Hornet 900) has a fantastic riding position; I have never had problems with sore buns, even after 12 hours of riding in one day. The wind pressure have given me sore shoulders and upper arms at times, but only after doing long hauls on the freeway (800+ km / 500 miles) after riding everyday for a few weeks. Not so much that it becomes unpleasant, but it would be unfair not to mention it. It’s a freaking great motorcycle that’s what it is, and when it has just been cleaned (did that yesterday) it looks absolutely bitchin’. If I could afford it though, and had the room for it, I would get two motorcycles instead; a 1000cc touring bike of some sort, and a 600cc sports bike. As with most thing that do several things well, it does none of them excellent. But then again asking a motorcycle to be a tough tourer and a nimble race bike at the same time might be pushing it.

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685 Responses to “How it’s like having a Honda 919 / Hornet 900”

  1. Magus  August 2nd

    Sounds liek a great bike! I have been in almost the exact same situation as you re: wanting two bikes for my one and still being very happy with what I have. My Ducati Multistrada 1000s is very similar in being sporty and a wonder on the twisties, good enough for the occasional track day and still useful for touring. After going to the track with the Multi I had thought about how much fun a dedicated track bike would be in the 600cc range but for now, the Multi does everythign so well, on average, that it’s tough to add another bike. Kind of makes you wish these bikes weren’t so good to help you get different, specific perpose bikes!

  2. Jesper  August 2nd

    Actually when I tried a Multistrada it was as close as I have ever been to replacing the Honda.

    But the Duc’s are very expensive both to acquire and to own, at least in Denmark. It would only get me in the same situation I’m in now, maybe a little more towards touring. So I decided not to.

    But still, I’m pretty exited to see how Triumph’s new 1050cc Tiger turns out. I like the trend the Multi started of lighter sport touring bikes that at leaned towards supermoto’s rather than race bikes.

  3. Jesper  August 2nd

    Did I mention that I hate you for having a Multi 1000s? If you now tell me it’s also black, I’ll turn green with envy and ban you from commenting ever again.

    Ha ha just kidding of course. Would love to hear how it is owning one though.

  4. Chris  August 6th

    Welcome back Jesper!! It was very good
    what you did with the video stuff!!! I really enjoyed it. Now, i’m thinking of creating a blog like yours, with as many
    as possible , information about greece(this is my place!!!)& i have a question for you : would it be better to make at “blogger” or “word press”? Thanx in advance.If you want, you may answer me directly to my mail.

  5. Jesper  August 7th

    Thanks, Chris. Glad you liked the video.
    I have answered you by email.

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  7. David  March 21st

    Hi Jesper,

    I usually buy my bikes (8 since is was 15) around this time of year, partly because it just about to get warm and lovely outside and also that I have my birthday in March. As you know I have been doing some test rides (KTM990 Adventure, MUltistrada 1000, Sprint 1050 ST) and most recently I tried a VFR 800 and a beautiful Hornet 900.

    After my BMW R1100GS, wich I loved for the stable predictable handling and the built for two up engineering of the thing I was sure I was after something:
    A) More sporty (Power and light weight)
    b) More comfortable on the Autobahn (Screen)
    c) Still with a certain uniqueness. (No inline 4)

    The VFR800 (Before VTEC) was very interesting but I could not stand the looks. The particular Hornet900 I tried was a hoot, but very twitchy with some very wide aftermarket bars, and still too windy on those autobahns (From hamburg you have to ride at least 1 hour to get to any decent roads)

    In the end I found my dream, a 1996 VFR750F in Red, it looks just like the famous NS750 and for its years still rides and feels like very high quality piece of work. The riding position is sporty but comfotable, the noise from that growling burblling V4 is awesome, and with 100HP she can still go. I’ve only done 500km so far but very satisfied. Will keep you posted on life with the VFR.

  8. Jesper  March 22nd

    Hey David, congratulations on the VFR. Email me a few photos of the bike and write a little on how it’s like to ride and I’ll post it in the review section.

  9. Steve  March 25th

    I have an 05′ 919(US) and have been extremely impressed with the mixture of performance and riding comfort. I generally use it in the warmer months as a commuter but have taken it on some longer rides and have nothing but praise for the power and feel.

    I have grown up on quite a few sport 600′s and as they have a better immediate “nimble agility”, Over time with the 919, I have learned that it is just as agile on the twistys as any 600 and has been proven with several friends. The other notion is that with the past 600 class bikes, you feel that you need to get them up into the 8 or 9K rpm range for them to really show what they are made of. With the 919, that’s a non-issue as the power is there from off-idle to the top end. With some creative shift points, you can pretty much match or exceed anything on the road. (Within reason)

    I believe that it comes down to rider skill as I have ridden with professionals that have simply walked away from me on one wheel out of a corner, but I have to admit that this is a fantastic, well rounded machine.

    I can’t wait for it to warm up..

  10. Elizabeth Jury  April 3rd

    I just bought my first motorcycle, a 2006 919, in June of ’06. I knew nothing about motorcycles other than I really liked the looks of the Ducati, but as I went looking around at the dealerships the Honda dealers started asking about my experience and styling and pointed me toward the 599, which I wasn’t quite comfortable on. I tried the 919 and absolutely loved it. After a few riding sessions I am getting much more comfortable with riding my bike, but I keep feeling frustrated that I can never find any accessories for the 919. Are their wind shields of any sort, or packs I can throw on it somewhere so I don’t always have to lug around my backpack? Is it possible to make the exhaust louder? Lots of questions from a new timer, and apparently it is a shame that I don’t know enough about the bike to fully appreciate it yet.

  11. Jesper  April 3rd

    There´s plenty of accessories around for the Honda 919, Elizabeth. E.g. Givi makes windshields and luggage, akrapovic makes exhausts and Rizoma makes quite a few shiny knobs, levers, and indicators. That’s only mentioning a few.

  12. Elizabeth Jury  April 3rd

    Thank you so much! I was really only looking at official Honda parts because they say to use them and I didn’t know where else to look. Once again much thanks!

  13. jim  April 18th

    i been looking for a 919 for a damn long time kind of rare in canada not a lot of true believers here of naked style lots of 600rrs or lay down machines for sale but not alot of 599s or919s

  14. Elizabeth  April 19th

    I found my 919 pretty easily. Each of the dealerships around me had one. One had the previous year and the other two had the current. I looked for used for a little bit but found nothing to my liking since I refuse to use eBay motors.

  15. Jesper  April 19th

    As used the 919 is not that common in Denmark either. But usually there’s one or two for sale. They sold lots of them from new, so I guess people just keep them.

  16. Dave  April 22nd

    I bought a salvaged 919 a couple years back. I’m pretty impressed by the handling and braking although you must hang off and never upshift exiting a left hand turn or risk getting your foot pulled under the footpeg.
    Those that want a useful fairing can look at Rifle fairings. I adapted the sportbike fairing to the 919 using handmade brackets to the mirror mounts on the handlebars and to the cast-in holes in the lower triple clamp.
    I had to replace the forks because the place that sells these salvaged bikes welds the original and usually bent forks. The Honda 600 forks work. I also got a used 4 into 1 pipe from some other Honda 900 to reduce weight and make room for flush mounted turn signals. I had to fabricate two mounting brackets for the pipe and also bought two used footpeg assemblies and cut off the passenger pegs.
    You might wonder why I did these things, but I am getting older and the riding position on most sport bikes are hard to deal with, and the 919 is one of the few more upright bikes that are still pretty sporty, fairly light weight etc.
    I also made some plates for the front engine mount where it looks like there should have been some. It seems to make the frame a little stiffer.
    An all-around good bike it seems, lots of fun and not exceedingly tiring while riding just to get to an interesting road or place. I can go about twice as far as I could on my SV650S and still feel better.
    Its kind of sad that competition seems to dictate a large part of motorcycle design, both street and dirt, while it seems most riding is done somewhere other than a track.
    I have Husqvarna 510 dualsport also. It is designed seemingly for the guy that lives three blocks from a motocross track and doesn’t want to load his bike onto a truck. Not dual purpose.
    In both cases the gear ratios are not suited ideally for where the bikes will end up being ridden.

    – Keep riding to good places for good reasons.

  17. Sam  April 26th

    I bought my 919 back in Feburary of 03. I think that this 03 smoke color is still the best. 14 K miles without a tune up and it still purrs.
    I did have to put some new tires on it at 7k miles with a new chain. I have a GIVI windsreen and that helps alot at 80+ mph. The only problem I have had was that the shifter arm bolt fell off once and I put some lock tite on it. I was lucky enogh to find it on the road. This bike will do anything you want as long as you stay under 154 mph. That was the speed I reached just last fall after cycle work tested the 919 and said it would do 140. This bike is as much anti Harley as you can get. So quiet, so fast. I wonder how much longer Honda will make it, and what will they replace it with?

  18. Jesper  April 26th

    Honda keeps updating the 600cc version, and they don’t have any other naked bikes in the 1000cc category than the 919. I have a hunch that we’ll see a new version based on the 1000cc fireblade engine very soon. Questions is will it be just as versatile.

  19. Redshark  May 22nd

    Since the mid 70′s here in Central California I have owned 4 street bikes and 3 dirt bikes, and ridden countless other examples of both kinds with extreme glee. My first streeter was a little Honda CB100 Scrambler. Wouldnt do 60 if you dropped it out of a plane, but it started my love for street bikes.
    Went in the U.S. Air Force coupla years later and didnt get another bike until 1986. A 1981 Honda CB650 Custom.
    That bike and I went everywhere, and for 4 years I didn’t own a car. That sweet little gem of an OHC 647cc engine was very willing, and the bike was low and I could move it around like a flat tracker. Had a lot of fun spinning donuts in the dirt and watchin’ my sportbike buddies dumpin’ there bikes trying best me.

    After the Honda, it was a 79 Yamaha XS850 Special. Considered by many to be the first true Japanese cruiser bike, the XS had a three cyclinder 4 stroke that had a good blend of torque and power, was shaft driven and all disc brakes, and was a smooth and powerful cruiser. A very nice bike and in good shape for its years, and I put a lot of miles on it. It sits in my garage waiting for someday.

    A few more years and an opportunity to get a VERY nice 1982 V45 Sabre. A real firebreather. Literally. The exhausts were so blown out you could see flames come out of them at night! A fact that did not go unnoticed by the local police who quickly and very earnestly warned me that this was not something they would tolerate.
    But the bike was fast and I rode it hard and sold it and got married (at 41!) and now have kids and well…

    So two weeks ago for various reasons I walked into the Honda Dealership and bought a brand new, last one, good deal 2006 Honda 919.

    And all I can say is this:
    It’s like I never owned a motorcycle before.
    Almost everything about this bike amazes me. The seating position is just the way I like it. The color is Red. And the bike is FAST! Nothing I have ever ridden has had such a smooth delivery of usable power. And so much of it! And yet the bike is nimble and stable at speed. But the bike is also well mannered and quiet, and I love that I can just laugh at all the road sofa V Twin ridin dentists and accountants and know that they just don’t get it.
    A modern naked is a true street bike. Meant to do a lot of things very well, and for a very long time. A Honda that is well maintained can last forever, and the 919 is as fine an example of quality and engineering in a motorcycle as you are likely to find today.


  20. Jesper  May 22nd

    Amen to that, Redshark. A good explanation to why I find it so hard to part with my 919.

  21. Redshark  May 22nd


    I knew you would agree. Even though I loved all my bikes, this on is really something special. I guess, though, when you go 24 years between models, your gonna get your eyes opened. Wide. lol


  22. Jesper  May 23rd

    Ha ha, yea. Anything else would be pretty disappointing.

  23. Redshark  May 23rd

    Im not really too big on making mods to my bike, mostly just little cosmetics changes. Aside from that, do you think that the 919 needs any critical changes made or is she good to go the way she is? So far, for me anyway, the bike is a monster already, but I’m curious what someone with a lot more experience with the bike thinks.

    Thanks, Redshark

  24. Jesper  May 25th

    I haven’t modified the Honda that much, but the mod I appreciate the most would be the power commander. Not that it ads more power, it just gives you control of the fuel injection, like a jetkit on a carburetor. I had it tuned in on a dyno by a pro, and the even acceleration curve all the way up to the red is very noticeable. Where it would have sort of a dive at 5-6k revs before, and then shoot you out of a cannon after 6k.

    Other than that, I like my slightly lower bars, for a more aggressive riding position.

    Oh, and the honda flyscreen is a must. Even though it’s small it makes a big difference in moving the wind away from your torso. Depending on your height of course.

  25. Redshark  May 27th

    Thanks, I think that the screen sounds like a good idea. I’m only 5′ 9″ so it would probably help a lot. The rest sounds good, too, but to be honest the bike scares me a little as it is (lol) so i might hold off on more power (for now)!

  26. steve  May 28th

    hi, to all u guyes and gals who have commented on the honda 919 , i just tested a red new 06 on sunday and sure it goes very well , i took my partner on the back and she said it was very comfortable , i ride dirt bikes a drz 400 lots of fun , and the last road bike owned was a zzr 1100 which was a very fast bike and comfortabel two , but lots of dollars , so for half the price i can get this 919 , like various comments before i found it needed a screen to keep some wind off, i took it up to 160km which was very easy , but a bit hard to ride at that speed for long , so should i buy it , i think it feels good , and like to have the option of road riding as well

  27. Jesper  May 28th

    It’s your decision, buddy. Every bike has its pro’s and con’s. Most of us here would tell you to go for it. But you are the one coughing up the dough.

  28. steve  May 29th

    thanks , jesper , yea sure , well they have it on special as well 10,ooo nz dollars for a new bike sounds to good to let go

  29. Greynomad  May 29th

    Dear Folks, I started riding in 1955 on an Ariel Red Hunter 500 single, graduated to an Ariel Square four and a succession of other bikes over the years. Twelve months ago I bought a new red Hornet 900 and have to say it is one of the sweetest pieces of machinery I have had the pleasure of riding. I also have a Suzuki SV1000S which is a different formula but equally exhilarating. Bikes just keep getting better, and what a blast they are. At 70 years of age it still curdles my hormones to go for a fang with my son on a nice Saturday morning. Keep on ridin boys.

  30. Redshark  May 31st


    You go dude! I thought I was an old street vet, but you are the man! I wish I could ride with you someday, but it’s nice to know that we don’t lose the thrill as we get older! Ride on!


  31. Steve  June 1st

    Jesper, If I may ask, exactly what bars did you install to lower and approximately how much? If there is one thing, I sometimes feel as if my stance is a little tall and feel as if I’m riding a top a very fast refrigerator. A small drop in bar height would be a welcome thing.

    Any suggestions?

    And thanks for the site.. I don’t know if you intended this to be a forum for the 919 / Hornet but it’s a wealth of good information for those of us who covet and appreciate them as a wonderful, well rounded bike..


  32. Jesper  June 1st

    Steve, the bars I fitted is Renthal bars. You can find them at
    I don’t remember exactly which ones, but I think it was the Road Medium bars.

    When you fit them, you have to grind down the plastic knobs inside the controls. The knobs fit in holes on the original bars to prevent the controls from twisting. You could drill holes in the Renthals for the knobs, but I don’t recommend that. Instead I used some double sided foam tape to keep the controls in place, that works excellent.

    Good luck with the bars mate, and just ask if you have any questions. I think it’s great discussing this brilliant motorcycle with you guys.

  33. steve  June 1st

    hi greynomad, yes indeed fantastic news to see your still riding at 70 , im 51 , and still love riding , i have riden since i was 15 and have also had i think seven bikes and looking for my 8th , i ride dirt bikes , but want to have a road bike to , im looking at a red hornet like yours , and i have also been looking at a sv 1000 , plus the new bandit ,but the hornet for 10k is a good buy against 12,500 and 13,500,it is fantastic that your son loves to ride with you, something i would like to happen one day for myself. there have been times in my life when i havnt had a bike but i cant get them out of my system , just love riding so much , i guess you all know what im talking about

  34. Dave  June 2nd

    Hi, thanks for the review and comments. I have been considering purchasing a Suzuki sv650 but now thinking about the hornet 919 instead especially at the reduced price of NZD 10K.

    Has anybody ridden or owned both as to how they compare. I am mainly wanting mine for commuting about 60km per day (some motorway work) plus the option to cruise / tour 1 up or maybe 2 up less frequently


  35. Steve  June 2nd

    Cheers Dave,

    I rode the SV quite a few times and was impressed with the low end torque but the overall experience was a little flat. It reminded me of a GSXR with a mildly tuned V four and no excitement over 5K rpm. I also rode the SV1000 and was a bit more satisfied, but where the low end left off, the 919 just starts to kick in.. And just doesn’t stop until you let off.

    My neighbor owns an SV650 and we go riding regularly. He complains of the same. I let him ride my 919 a few weeks back and he’s now trying to sell the SV for something as he says, “More agile and a tad more aggressive”…

    The sad part is that he was sold on the “Twin” concept and that it was more powerful and “better”. An interesting sales perspective on a import bike. I wonder how long that will last. Even with the RC51 in play.

    In my opinion, the SV650 is a great bike and a good equal for the 599 / Hornet 600. The 919 however is a completely different motorcycle. You need to ride the difference to make a balanced decision.

    My 919 is mainly a commuter with occasional rides of 4 to 500 miles. I have yet to hear or experience a belch or anything negative from the bike. A truly amazing machine. It seems to get smoother and more powerful with every ride.

    Of course we are bias in our choice but you have to understand why. And you will only do that when you get on one and open it up.

    Happy and safe riding..


  36. Dave  June 2nd

    Hi Steve

    Thanks for taking the time to write some very useful comments.

    A lady at my work (hospital 4000 staff)has also recently changed from riding a SV650S to a Honda 919 and seems very happy with the change even though she really liked the SV650S. I’m still to decide 100% but thinking more towards the 919. Perhaps a test ride of both will clearly settle the issue.

  37. Christian  June 3rd

    I just brought home yesterday an ’04
    919 with 1300 miles. This bike is awsome. Having riden much in my 20s I cannot believe how well the bike tracks and how smooth the power rolls on. I could get in trouble on this!

  38. Greynomad  June 5th

    G’Day All
    Interesting discussion. Speaking about the difference between the SV and Hornet, they are both great bikes. The SV 1000 makes a bit more power than the Hornet (86 kw [115.24 hp] and 81 kw [108 hp], with power to weight ratios of .45 kw/kg and .4175 kw/kg respectively. The real difference is in the way the power is delivered. The Hornet, being a four, is as smooth as silk all the way up the rev range.It delivers 92 nm of torque at 6500 rpm against 87.3 nm at 8000 rpm from the SV. At anything above 2500 rpm on the Hornet the gearbox becomes almost irrelevant (unless you want to put that Porsche 911 in its place). It just hauls away like a diesel electric locomotive. The SV on the other hand, doesn’t like getting below 3000 rpm if asked to dig its toes in, and will induce transmission lash unless dropped down a cog or two. Nevertheless it is also a beautiful thing on the road and has that magic V twin throb with the aftermarket Devil cans fitted. The Hornet has the small screen and a centre stand, useful for chain and tyre maintenance but is otherwise as created by Honda. And how good is Honda engineering? When they brought out the Benley Dream in the early 60′s we Triumph, Norton, AJS etc traditionalists thought it was a bit of a joke, but it didn’t leak oil, always started and went forever. The rest is history. Hey Christian, take it easy for a few days till you’ve got the feel of it! It’s awfully tempting to let the horses out for a run.
    Cheers, and safe and happy riding.

  39. Steve  June 6th

    Wow, I couldn’t agree with you more. You nailed that comparison perfectly. There is very little mechanical and comparative difference in street machines at this point other than color.

    I do however believe that it comes down to a mixture of innovation, performance, reliability and as a result, brand loyalty. The last being a synergy of the previous three.

    I believe that all major manufacturers are on a fairly level field at this point. They all have their strong points and of course areas that they equally struggle with. But the analogy of the Benly struck a chord with me. It’s one of the reasons that I purchased the 919 in the first place. Amusingly enough, I recently bought a 63’ Honda CA95 from a young kid that let it sit outside under a tarp for many years as he didn’t have the money nor the technical direction to appreciate it. This motorcycle was absolutely stock with the exception of the oil and the spark plug.. It was missing a few small parts that will come with time and much research but I spent a weekend cleaning the cobwebs out of it, replacing the remaining fluids and general inspection. After a little “basic housecleaning”, I was amazed that the bike started within 5 minutes and with a little light tuning, I was roaming around my neighborhood on a piece of history.

    My amazement at the resilience of that machine is a small testament to excellent engineering and a company that has sold over 150 million motorcycles. That first puff of smoke from the exhaust and the eventual short trip around the block is what causes that brand loyalty that I spoke of above. Not meant to sound like an advertisement for Honda, as that could have happened with any vintage bike. But it just happened to occur next to it’s much newer cousin the CB900F and also next to the Prelude on the other side of the garage. Yes, there is something to that brand loyalty.

    Don’t get me wrong though, that zip around on the ZX-14 last week was a mind-scrambler. Geez…


  40. Tyler  June 7th

    Hey, great report! I own an 04 919 (US) and love it. Great mix of bike. I had the misfortune of hitting a deer on it last fall. The damage to me and the bike was mainly superficial. Stitches for me, new tank, alternator cover and rear fender for the bike.

    My question is about frame sliders. I would really not like to buy a tank again should I put the bike down again in the future. Everything I’ve read though seems to indicate that you put the crank case in danger with most frame sliders. What’s your take? Any recommendations? If saving my tank costs me the engine mounts on the motor then I guess I’ve lost the whole bike instead of just the tank.

  41. Jesper  June 8th

    You might have a point there, Tyler. I use Rizoma frame sliders. But as you say, they replace the engine mounts. I haven’t crashed it, so I can’t say if it’s a problem, but I’d definitely look further into it.

  42. Christian  June 12th

    What do you get for RPMs @ MPH. I have not pulled the sprocket cover but I am lower in RPM than what I have read. I would still like to have a lower RPM 6th gear. Approx from memory 60 MPH 4200 70 MPH 4800
    80 MPH 5100

  43. Christian  June 12th

    Wow, I hunt deer, I know their density!
    I’m glad you are OK.

  44. Jesper  June 12th

    I run stock size sprockets front and rear. Never really noticed exactly how fast I was going at a certain RPM. But I’ll make a note of it next time I’m out.

  45. Greynomad  June 12th

    Pleased to hear you are OK after your encounter with the deer. In 1958 two mates and I were going to a dance one night on an Ariel 600 side valve single with a large wooden box sidecar. Two of us in the sidecar and one driving, all wearing dinner suits, going flat chat (about 60 mph)when a large Red Forester kangaroo bounded out of the bush, saw the bike at the last moment and jumped. His tail and legs hit my friend’s arm and the tank as he went over the top, we swerved and the sidecar wheel lifted about 2 feet off the road but settled again and we proceeded to the dance a bit shaken but unhurt. Livestock are unpredictable, particularly at night and the counter-steer can be a useful skill. Can’t help with the slider issue Tyler, but it would seem to be a potential problem where the forces generated when a bike is dropped are transmitted to the engine block casting, rather than the frame. As the Hornet’s main structural member is the spine there doesn’t appear to be a mounting point where you need it other than the usual one. It might be worth writing to Honda or raising it with your local dealer.
    Good luck, and beware of the venison.

  46. Steve  June 13th

    Wow.. I felt lucky to gather my wildlife badge with a Jack Russell Terrier (named “Lucky”.. No kidding..) and a Mallard Duck. Of course not all at the same time but my heart stopped nonetheless.

    I couldn’t imagine a deer. That’s just something I can’t imagine.

  47. Jorge  June 18th

    I’m on my third Hornet 919. I do 10000 kms per year and ride every day. I keep trying other bikes from the new Kawasaki 1400 to Blades, but short of buying a shed-full, the hornet covers more situation with less fuss. Since I never have a pillion, I can store plenty on a Ventura rack and tour the country. (5000km round trip).

    It’s winter here now and I’ve bolted on a massive “Slipstreamer” American wind screen. It’s horrible, ugly and noisy, but warm and dry in filthy weather. I’ve got a Givi flyscreen for Spring. I just love this bike. It feels as flickable as a scooter around town, but it can keep up with some pricy bikes out in the country.

    Thanks for putting together a good site. (Tak Jesper) I enjoy reading other reactions to the Hornet 919.

  48. Jesper  June 18th

    Thanks, Jorge, glad you like it. I think it’s remarkable that we all feel exactly the same about this bike. Looks like the 919 will become a modern classic.

  49. John K.  June 18th

    Hi folks,

    I’ve been reading your comments with interest. I ride an ’05 919 and while I’m not as enthusiastic as some of you, it’s a fine bike nonetheless: at least it will do until I can afford an S4R Monster, if that ever happens. What I really wanted to contribute is that for those 919 owners who might be shopping for a small, economical and sporty looking fairing for the 919, you might want to give National Cycle a look. They make several nice products that fit the 919 and other bikes as well.
    And, no, I don’t work for them :-)

  50. Jorge  June 19th

    To John T, I understand the appeal of hairy V-twins, but I must tell a couple of stories concerning the Hornet versus “sexy” show ponies.

    Firstly a near neighbour bought a magnificent Cagiva V-twin (which has the SV motor)with very masculine cans. It must have been great roaring through the countryside, but after three weeks of firing it up at 7am, he took it back and got a Bandit. The novelty of waking up the neighbourhood wore thin.

    Secondly, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I used to be embarrased that it wasn’t a BMW or an MV, but I have been pleasantly surprised at the attention paid to the Hornet 919 by attractive articulate undergraduates, who have yet to learn the prejudices of bike journalists.

    Dont get me wrong- I’d just love a Ducati, but not for touring or commuting. I’d need both bikes. One day……………

  51. Greynomad  June 20th

    Mine does 3800 rpm at 100 kilometres per hour in 6th gear, which translates to 3672 rpm at 60 mph. There are 16 teeth on the small cog and 42 on the large cog. It was built in August 2005. The primary reduction is 1.52, sixth gear ratio is 1.130 and final drive reduction is 2.687 according to the handbook. It is running a 180/55 ZR 17 Bridgestone Batlax BT 56R on the rear with negligible wear.

  52. Christian  June 20th

    Thank you. Your information and tails are great. Bikers down under are beyond the rest, I know, I’ve seen Mad Max.

  53. Will  June 29th

    I have a 2003 919 and just put Michelin Power Pilots on it and the bike luvs them it’s own children! Also, I figured out how to mount a steering damper from a GSXR on the 919 and if you think it handled the corners before, I cannot tell you what a huge difference the damper makes. I have ridden it about 7000 miles without the steering damper and 300 with it installed. It now corners at least TWICE as well as it did before!

  54. Jesper  June 29th

    Interesting… Sounds like I got to try that.

  55. Redshark  July 4th


    Well, it’s been two months since I bought the 919, and all my earlier impressions were based on riding the bike during the break in miles. Now that I can really get on her, I am more amazed than ever. While I’ve only been able to hit 135 so far, I’m sure I will get that last 7 miles an hour (according to Cycle World) at some point. If my nerve holds up (and my grip! No fairing yet!)
    Anyway, I love the 919 more than ever, and am looking forward to a very long, and very satisfying relationship with her.
    And even better, finally got my wife to go for a ride and she loved it. Time for some California Coastal Route touring this summer!

    By the way, I hit a possum once on my old 850 Yammie and some how managed not to go down, but I’d say it ruined the possums day.


  56. Greynomad  July 5th

    Redshark, Old Son
    Don’t you have a restaurant or two in California which specialise in dishes prepared from road kill? I was in LA and San Francisco in September but didn’t see any although I had read about them. A nice ‘Frisco fricasseed possum might make an interesting change from clam chowder and sourdough!
    On a different note, we had here an artist of some international renown called Pro Hart who lived in a mining town called Broken Hill until his recent death. He was, among other things, a collector of motorcycles, so he was not all bad. A Google search on ‘Bonhams & Goodman’ will yield the results of an auction of that part of his estate held on 1 July 2007, when a 1966 Greeves, a 1951 Ariel Red Hunter, a 1958 Ariel Square Four and a 1949 Vincent Rapide were sold,the Vincent for AU$47,460 (about US$40,725). It would be nice to have a couple of those in the garage.

  57. Redshark  July 5th


    I don’t know of any restaurants that can do roadkill, but I know a few gap-toothed, mullet headed, Camaro drivin’, moblie home livin’ California Hillbillies that probably have more than one recipe for possum and God knows what else. Can’t say I’m droolin’ over the prospect though.

    As far as the bikes go, would love to have seen, let alone ridden, any one of them.


    P.S. I think we all need a place to post our photos, would love to see all of you, your bikes and your travels.

  58. Tim  July 7th

    Gentlemen- What a cool site with lots of good old real world info from the guy net door! I am currently looking for a nice used 919, wanted a bike now for 4 years. My impending divorce (she walked out on me) frees me to get what I want, when I want. I have read so much positive about the cb900f and sitting on one in the showroom confirms my lust. Just a couple thousand US dollars away from bliss!
    Take care and ride safe boys—

  59. Will  July 7th

    Funny, that’s how I got mine. She says,”I think it’s over between us.” I just looked at her and said, “I’ll be right back…” Picked it up the next morning.

  60. Rob  July 12th

    Guys, I’ve been reading your blog with huge interest. I live in the UK but currently I do not own a bike – nor have I taken a test…yet. But please keep reading, I don’t plan to be an outsider forever!

    I have become obsessed with bikes since watching Ewan McGregor and Charlie Boorman circumnavigate the globe on BMW R1150 GS’s. Check it out and just lately I’ve spent loads of time reading all of the reviews on your amazing site it’s amazing.

    I wonder, how do I persuade my wife that biking has to be part of my life! Does anyone have any suggestions, I need to make a compelling case for it – or I might just go ahead and do it anyway!

    By the way, I think for a first bike I’d fancy a Honda CB600 Hornet but you know if anyone has any other ideas…


  61. Will  July 12th

    Jesper, Put a steering damper of some sort on your 919 and I guarantee it will become the sport bike you are looking for and make it an easier bike to tour on too! Guaranteed! I did it to mine and the difference was astounding!

  62. Steve  July 13th

    Hey Will, Any possibility of giving up the technical end of the GSXR damper retrofit? I would love to jump into it blind, but some advice would be quite welcome.


  63. Will  July 13th

    Here is one of the dampers.

    The threads on the ball joint end bolt are 8mm X 1.25mm threads.

    Sitting on the bike, look at the top of the left lower triple clamp. You will see a small raised ‘doughnut’. It is the bump stop for the steering stop.
    I drilled it out with a 7/64″ bit and tapped the hole through it with an 8mm x 1.25mm thread tap. Take the seat off and loosen the bolt at the rear tank mount so you can slide the tank back. Lift the tank and put a 2′ long piece of wood under it to hold it up in the air. Look at the right side of the bike where the frame top tube meets the frame down tube, you will see a triangular piece of flat metal bracing. Drill and tap the same size hole 3/4″ up and 3/4″ back. You will need a 8mm x 1.25mm thread about 2″ long round/hex head bolt, a metal sleeve 1/2″ long to go between the damper and the frame brace, and a locknut if you want.
    Photo here:

  64. Will  July 13th

    Well they wouldn’t post the technical.
    Is there any to post a photo on this site? If not there is one on the ‘flaming knife’ site.

  65. Will  July 13th

    Find a photo of one of the dampers on an auction site.

    The threads on the ball joint end bolt are 8mm X 1.25mm threads.

    Sitting on the bike, look at the top of the left lower triple clamp. You will see a small raised ‘doughnut’. It is the bump stop for the steering stop.
    I drilled it out with a 7/64″ bit and tapped the hole through it with an 8mm x 1.25mm thread tap. Take the seat off and loosen the bolt at the rear tank mount so you can slide the tank back. Lift the tank and put a 2′ long piece of wood under it to hold it up in the air. Look at the right side of the bike where the frame top tube meets the frame down tube, you will see a triangular piece of flat metal bracing. Drill and tap the same size hole 3/4″ up and 3/4″ back. You will need a 8mm x 1.25mm thread about 2″ long round/hex head bolt, a metal sleeve 1/2″ long to go between the damper body swivel and the frame brace, and a locknut if you want.

  66. Will  July 13th

    photo here

  67. Simon  July 13th

    Hi Guys well today was won of the most embarrising days ive ever had. recently i got my bike licence and have been drooling over the new fireblade in the local honda dealership. any way the salesman said “would i like to test ride so the next day i got my riding gear and took him up on the the offer .
    I signed the necessary paper work
    handed over my shiney new licence and here was this beatiful shiney red and black monster i was supposed to ride off on anyway i was packing shit beacause all i had ever riden was a 250 and 500 a few times on my training.
    i composed myself and rode off into the traffic.The hydraulic clutch was nice as easy to use and to my suprise i was riding off with this machine. It was supprisingly easy to ride and streered beatifully everthing went fine till i turned into the drive at the dealership. there was a line of cars exiting the drive way so i thought i would go into the neighbouring carpark and do a u turn slowly join the traffic and end up at the the front of shop but some how i forgot everything i learned at the course about looking where i wanted to go andfelt the blade dropping and i could not stop it. Miraculasly i managed to pick it back up myself and it didnt have a mark on it except for a scatched bolt on the engine cover.
    Im only 170cm tall an only my tippy toes could touch the ground when seated this along with my lack of experience i assume nervousness cause dthis mishap and it has rattled me a bit about buying a bike. the owner of the shop came out expecting to see heap of damage but nothing which was amazing but bloody embarrising.
    the shop were grat about it and have ofered to see if they can lower the bike for me as im vertically challenged so will keep you posted if i end up buying it.


  68. Jesper  July 13th

    Personally I would characterize starting off on a fireblade as insane. That’s one of the most potent motorcycles you can buy, and certainly not a beginner bike.

    I’ll bet anything that you will end up either not riding very much because you’re not really comfortable with the bike, or only using like 1% of what the bike can do.

    If you must start on a sport bike, I’d strongly recommend going for the CBR600RR instead. Even that can be a handful for the untrained.

    I wrote a few tips on buying your first motorcycle a while back. You can find them here.

    5 things I wish I knew when I bought my first motorcycle

    Choosing your first motorcycle

    Bottom line advice is; buy something used in the 500-600cc range, ride it for a year, do track days, courses etc. then sell it and get your Fireblade. I guarantee you will be a safer more happy rider.

  69. Simon  July 13th

    Thanks for the advice Jesper i think i will be a little more comfortable with 2nd hand and lower power. At least if i drop it it wont be as heartbreaking as dropping a shiney new fireblade and a few more hours practice on quite streets (eg new subdivison) going through my turning and stopping would build more confidence.On my course i confidently did figue 8′s etc no problem so was really dissapointed today when i did what i did. I got a laugh when reading 120 ways to drop your bike on the net.


  70. Anthony Jr.  July 17th

    This forum has some legs!

    I have never owned a motorcycle, and only had first hand experience with powersports by way of a Honda ATC185 (three-wheeler, natch) when I was a teenager.

    My cousin, a die hard Suzuki guy throughout my adolesence, always let me ride whatever bikes he owned: a 92 GSXR 1100 (frightening speed), a 96 TL1000 (frightening torque), and a 99 Hayabusa (ludicrous).

    So, lo and behold, here in 2k7 I manage to slip into a job as Marketing Director for America’s largest Honda powersports dealership in Chattanooga, TN.

    A month into my job, I have a crush on Honda motorcycles, and I’m absolutely smitten with the 919, which for me has all the attitude of a sportbike (without the penchant for criminality), the muscularity of a cruiser (without destroying my quadriceps sitting it upright), and the practicality of a sport tourer (without feeling too tame). All the gushing in these forums from you 919 owners is doing nothing to calm me down.

    So, my question is: would the 919 make a good first bike? I’m 6ft tall and fat (250lbs), so I worry I’d have the 599′s suspension crying for mercy. In putting all of our bikes around (mostly to and from events) I like the nimble heft of the liter bikes, but the 600s are so much easier to maneuver; the 919 seems a perfect split. However, all of us here get a few cold chills in the spine when a 17 year old with a shiny new bike license leaves the parking lot on a CBR1000RR, and I don’t want my desire for a big motor to be my mortal undoing.

    So what do you think?

    Also: not to sound like…well…a marketing guy, but we’re developing a line of “private label” bikes–that is, custom bikes that still cost less than MSRP–and I’m nuts about a 919 streetfighter, but without creeping into competition with our CBRs. We sell 07 919s out the door for $7283, so I’m wondering if you all could suggest about $1k worth of cosmetic/performance mods to make a 919 really scream for attention.


  71. Will  July 18th

    Wave rotors, Akropovic slip-ons, and some fat Renthal handlebars…

  72. Steve  July 18th

    Hey Will, thanks for all of the valuable insight and information. I’ve already got my sights on a steering damper that I know will work quite well based upon your help and experience.

    Thanks again.. That was above and beyond.



  73. Will  July 18th

    No Prob. My feeling is that anything that makes the bike handle better makes it safer and more fun to ride.

    Good luck with the drill and tap!


  74. Gigi  July 26th


  75. Will  July 27th

    Is that Spanish or Japanese?

  76. Steve  July 28th

    I think that it’s actually a localized Buddhist term.

    My understanding is “Sooka” means to short shift from second to third in order to achieve that special harmonic from the machine that brings you closer to that magical yet unlisted nine hundred nineteenth amendment of the “Eightfold Path” which eloquently states, “Pursue only noble conquests with all due speed..”

    Yes, I think that’s it.

  77. Mike  July 30th

    Great info here, I have been outta of the “loop” for a while..But I have found a good condition 02 for a great price..after reading nothing but good about the bike I do think that I am going to get the 919, It’s been a few years since I last rode (1993 cbr 1000f)..I do have quite a few years riding though, cant wait till i ride again..

  78. greynomad  July 30th

    Close Steve, but no cigar.
    Sooooooooooookaaaaaaaaaaaa was, in fact, the last sound made by the devotees of Krishna when they hurled themselves under the wheels of the Juggernaut (the 8th. avatar of Vishnu) to be crushed as a symbol of their faith. I prefer an annual donation to the work of the Church.
    Steve, in your note of 29 May you refer to $NZ, from which it might be fair to infer that you live in the Land of the Long White Cloud. You may have heard of a friend, John Woodley, who was prominent in NZ and international motorcycling in the 70′s, particularly riding a Suzuki TR500. John is now a silviculturist in the hills outside Melbourne but still retains an active interest in bikes and has Italian and Japanese delicacies in his stable. Good bloke!
    Speaking of India, it’s fascinating to see late 1950′s Royal Enfields, brand new, being ridden all over the country by police, the military and the public. It’s an amazing place if you are into travel.

  79. Will  July 30th

    Mike, you will be happy with the ‘no maintenance’ aspect of the bike, just a key and a kickstand, adjust, clean, and oil the chain regularly as the tranny likes it lot’s better when it’s just right!

  80. grey nomad  August 12th

    Just been for a ride with a friend who has bought a new Harley Sportster 883 custom. It’s a handsome steed in vivid black with customised small tank, a special lowrider seat and aftermarket fenders (we call them mudguards)and chromed straight-through pipes. All silver barrels and deep black paint. Looks good with the open spoke cast wheels and shouts for, and gets, heaps of attention with the unsilenced V twin throb. Doesn’t come close to complying with our rules about decibels. He looks like Martin Lawrence in Wild Hogs, but on the road it is no match for the Hornet. He is talking already about a 1200 conversion.

  81. Steve  August 12th


    Tell him it won’t help…

    12,000 lbs is still 12,000 lbs..

    That will do if you want to sleep from point A to point B. Think for a minute of the platform that the Space Shuttle rides on to the launch pad. They indeed get it done, but a Church mouse could beat them to the pad and probably has more fun doing it.

    On the lighter side, I just went through a MSF (Yank) experienced riding course today with some amazing instructors. I cannot recommend signing up for one of these classes enough. Not only did I learn some new “tricks” but gained an appreciation for taking it to a different level.

    Everything from basic safety to group riding and way beyond. And yes, there was hard acceleration and knee dragging involved..

    I find that when I get “relaxed” on my bike, that I occasionally need a refresher. Someone to shake me up and think a bit.

    Knowing that there are a lot of new riders that find this forum, I encourage all of you to spend the money and participate in at LEAST a basic riders course. You will not only learn the basics to stay alive in current day traffic condidtions but you will look at the world differently once you are on your Hornet / 919.

    Hopefully, alive to enjoy another day.


  82. Jorge  August 12th

    Hi to Anthony Junior
    The best looking Hornet I ever saw was at the Honda riders Club offices at Philip Island in Australia. They had removed and Gold plated all of the bolts on the crankcase etc., (as well as adding all of the usual extras). I was surprised what a stunning effect it made. I’d do it to mine if I wasn’t lazy.

  83. Will  August 12th

    Gray, You have to remember when you race guys on Harley’s to just stay about 2 meters in front of them, that way you won’t hurt their feelings quite so much.

  84. grey nomad  August 12th

    Thanks for the tip Will, but I prefer to draw up alongside Harleys, look across and smile, then administer the coup de grace quickly and cleanly to avoid subjecting them to the indignity of seeing their mascara run. In my friends case it would be a cruel and unusual punishment to attenuate the process since the little Peter Fonda tank (range 170km) and the other added accoutrements meant that the Sportster cost him just twice what he would have paid for a new Hornet 900, without approaching its performance!
    Steve, your advice about advanced riding courses is sage indeed, particularly having regard to modern traffic conditions. I stayed in Annaheim last September and went for a walk from the hotel, located right near a freeway. It was wall to wall traffic across 4 lanes all stampeding toward their destinations. A few bikers were mixing it with the cars and trucks. It would be seven years bad luck to miss seeing something ahead of you and come off in that company. The courses here, and I imagine there, are designed to alert riders to the whole environment, and are used by the police as well as the public. There is always something new to learn and who knows, it might be just the thing that saves you from a nasty accident.
    Safe riding.

  85. grey nomad  August 16th

    Hi, Anthony Jr
    Interested to read that a 17 year old can ride a CBR1000RR over there. Road traffic law is a matter for the States in Australia. Like you we are a federation, but under our constitution the Commonwealth (the federal body) has certain specified powers, the matters not specified being the responsibility of the individual States. In Victoria, my stamping ground, a newly licensed motorcyclist may not lawfully ride a motorcycle on a highway for the first 12 months if the engine has a swept volume greater than 260cc (15.86ci). He may not lawfully carry a pillion passenger during that time, but may carry a sidecar passenger. During that period he must at all times have a blood alcohol concentration of zero. The policy answers the very valid concerns you have expressed about the volatile cocktail which exists where the high spirits of youth are combined with inexperience and rocket sled performance. The advice Jesper gave Simon was eminently sensible from both the safety and financial perspectives.

    Are you able to say Anthony Jr, whether a revised 010/Hornet 900 is planned by Honda?

  86. Jorge  August 28th

    Hi Jesper
    About this Hornet.

    I need a bike that can be used 4 times a day to visit the accountant, pick up things without parking hassles, have coffee somewhere nice, and front up to elusive negotiators in person(the way you cant with email). Say 10000km per annum. It’s all traffic, so linear engine performance, grunt and handling are musts. A 600 with a 900+ engine.

    I need to bolt on different stuff depending on the season. In one month my huge Harley-type screen comes off. It looks nerdish and makes a racket, but I ride warmly through winter wearing summer-weight armour. On goes a colour keyed Givi one for Spring. (I live in New Zealand) Then the odd 400km day trips will get windier but quieter. For heatwaves the Givi comes off too.

    Year round I like to filter traffic like a 250. The mirrors define the gaps. So I dont want panniers. Luggage can go on the rack and the pillion- more than needed.

    I need to pick it up if I drop it, so it’s got to be under 200kg.

    Lastly it needs to look good. Everybody admires this one except in winter.

    How many riders are as fussy as to want all this? Greynomad was asking about he next Hornet. I love the styling of the new 600 Hornet, but that frontal treatment would rule it out for versatility. Maybe I’ll have this one for 100000kms.

  87. Jesper  August 29th

    Yes, Jorge, that sounds like a Hornet, it’s amazing isn’t it.

    I agree on the all space ship style fronts they give new bikes at the moment. They don’t look that good, and makes the bike less versatile.

  88. David  September 16th

    Hi All,
    6 weeks ago I bought a used 2003 919 Hornet on eBay. The seller agreed to keep it for 6 weeks until I could fly from Eastern Washington State to Los Angeles, CA to pick it up and ride it 1200 miles back home. I leave next Saturday the 22nd and I’m looking forward, not only to the adventure of the trip, but the joy of owning a 919. I’ve heard lots of good stuff. I currently ride a 2000 Sabre 1100cc cruiser and can’t wait to see what the hornet is all about. I’m hoping that it is as comfortable as everyone seems to think it is. I plan on 300 to 400 miles per day and that could last forever on an uncomfortable machine.


  89. Jorge  September 17th

    Hi David

    Congratulations. You’ll notice a lot of differences. One that I would recommend is to give it a few revs and a slow release of clutch when cold. A cold Hornet can be stalled if you get too cocky. There’s a choke-like hand throttle that you can set to about 1300rpm idle until it’s warm. That leaves the Pacific Coast to learn the rest of the differences. It’s a hard life for some!

  90. David  September 17th

    Thanks, Jorge,
    Any ideosyncracies that I should know about this bike? Any particular rpm range that induces increased vibration? What is the most comfortable cruise speed (vibe wise)?
    Thanks for your information….

  91. Jesper  September 17th

    I find that my 919, vibrates the most at 5000 rpm. Not as much to be annoying, but that’s when you can feel the vibration. Other than that, there’s nothing really to notice. Just ride the hell out of it and have a good time doing it.

  92. Jorge  September 17th

    Hi David

    There is a tingling sensation (that some might not object to) at around the 5000 as Jesper says. But you have six gears to chose and it’s up to you. It’s been winter where I am and I’ve been using lazy revs, but until you’re used to it keep the revs higher and avoid being caught out with a rapid stop.
    If you find yourself in 5th or 6th going too slowly you may have to let a bit of clutch out to change down.
    I’d also have a good look at the tyres (sorry, tires) and brake pads because stopping performance is sensational.
    Finally, manoeuverability is so good you forget it’s a big bike. I dropped mine asking it it to do a moped u-turn. You’ll love the steering lock, but there are limits.

  93. A-Jey  September 20th

    Question for All 919 owners, I have recently decided to sell my 89 Honda Hawk GT650 to fund another bike purchase. I am looking at buying the 2003 Honda 919. this will be my 4th Motorcycle, would this be a good Idea to go from the Hawk to the 919? Power wise i know the 919 is much stronger, but as far as reliability and riding position. I also Have a 1980 Honda cb750k and i love to ride it. Its a comfortable all around moto.
    any info would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks all!

  94. Steve  September 21st

    Hey AJ.. I can’t speak for the rest but as far as reliability, I haven’t had one cough from my 05′ other than vibration loosening a cover plate bolt and it falling out. Change the oil, keep air in the tires and it goes like hell all the time and every time. Good luck with your impending purchase.

  95. Will  September 21st

    You’ll luv it! Change the fork oil, adjust the chain and go riding. Like someone else said, the 919 is more reliable than the sun coming up every day!

  96. David  September 21st

    Hi All,
    Thanks for all the helpful comments. I leave the 22nd for Los Angeles from where my 1200 mile 919 ride back home begins. I’ll be coming up the eastern side of the Sierra to Bishop (Got to see Galen and Barbara Rowells Photo Gallery- If you’re a photo buff you’ll know what I mean). Then up to Lee Vining and west through Yosemite and back. Never seen it so will do it this trip. Then up to Reno, Winnemucca, Boise, and home (Lewiston, ID/Clarkston, WA). I’m excited and a little apprehensive at the same time, but, from the sounds of it, the 919 should get me back and quickly. I sent a Plexifairing GT down ahead of me and will install it before I begin my trip. This might be a saving grace should I hit bad weather. Once home an OEM flyscreen will replace the GT. I’ll give a report once I’m back in Washington State. Thanks again to all that have contributed to my knowlege of the hornet.
    Regards, David

  97. Steve  September 21st

    Congratulations on the purchase David.

    As a fellow Washingtonian I have to remind you to not forget 101 North.

    At least through Oregon as far as Astoria. I know it’s out of the way but this time of year it’s amazing.. You can head East and catch 2 to head home. Give it a thought.

    I’ve done it on mine and it was a fantastic ride. And I didn’t have the windscreen.

    Congratulations again, and here’s to a safe trip..

  98. Jorge  September 21st

    I’ll be interested to hear your reaction to the Plexifairing. It looks far superior to my Slipstreamer S-08, which roars from city speeds. Having said that, I have to admit you can carry on riding through hail in winter with it. Please let us know.

  99. greynomad  September 21st

    Have a safe and enjoyable ride. There will be a few of us riding with you in spirit. Let’s know how you got on when you get home.

  100. David  September 21st

    Hi All,
    Thanks for the good wishes for a safe trip. I’ll give a full report on what I think of the 919 as soon as I’m back. Also the Plexifairing GT and how well it did.
    Steve…I’ve done that route and, you’re right, it is a gorgeous trip. Actually a more scenic route than the trip through Nevada, but I have friends to see in Boise so I have to do that route.
    I’ll chat again when I’m back…

  101. Glen  September 30th

    I read about Akrapovic exhausts as a modification in one of the blogs. After looking at the official Akrapovic website, there is not a custom slip on exhaust that fits a 919. Can you give me the type of exhaust you ordered to modify the fit?

  102. Jesper  October 1st

    There is slip-on that fit the 919 on the Akrapovic site. It’s the ones listed under HONDA CB900F HORNET, which is the name of the 919 in Europe.

  103. Greynomad  October 9th

    Deals are being done here on Hornet 900′s, and bikes generally at the moment. I was made an offer I could not refuse and traded my 2005 model on a new Hornet 900 today. Also tried out a new red and black 2007 CBR 1000 RR Fireblade which is a thing of beauty. It only had 430 km on the clock so I took it gently, but once or twice let it out on the freeway. Sharp and precise are the words that spring to mind. The mailed fist in the velvet glove. Might have another look when the SV1000S is due to retire. After half an hour it was apparent that to ride any distance someone my vintage would need Helibars to raise the bars and move them rearward. I can sit on the Hornet all day without discomfort but quite apart from that, it did not appear that the very significant price difference (about $7,000 Au) was merited. The Hornet does everything so nicely, and although the Fireblade is quicker in the upper echelons of the performance scale, the opportunities to use it on public roads are almost non-existent here. Exceeding a speed limit by 25km or more attracts mandatory loss of licence if apprehended. The new Hornet is the same metalflake burgundy as the last one and has precisely the same poise on the road. The small Honda screen and centre stand have been transferred to the new bike. Fitting the centrestand is a fairly difficult and time-consuming task so it was left to the boys with the equipment. Happy tonight!

  104. Dave  October 9th

    The ride from Ontario, California to Washington State was an adventure. One flat tire going through Yosemite (Thank you Triple-A for the lift) and a plug to get me down the road to a Honda Shop for a new tire, but nothing beyond that for problems. The 919 is a blast. More power than Hoover Dam, but then you all knew that. The National Cycle Plexifairing GT is wonderful. You look over it, but it blocks the windblast from your main torso and a full face helmet takes care of the rest. It stays on the bike. Not nearly so large as I thought and it looks good as well. Just sent in a stock seat (ebay special) to Sargent for their magic reshape/refoam/recover job so I should be a bit more comfortable. All in all I love the bike.

  105. Jorge  October 9th

    Hi Greynomad
    Congratulations. I too renewed my Hornet- 14 months ago. My Givi screen, Scottoiler and luggage rack are now on my third Hornet. I went through a period of doubt about whether my money should have gone to an “upgrade”. I too also tried a Blade and was mightily impressed, but found it downright frustrating at daily commuting speeds. I am now emerging from winter vindicated in the choice of another Hornet. It’s a fine motorcycle in absolute terms, but it’s also the best bang for your buck in NZ.

  106. Greynomad  October 11th

    Hello Jorge
    Interested in the Scottoiler. Chain lube is not the best part of motorcycling. Does it throw oil about, and do you have to wipe excess oil off the chain occasionally? I have cut the side off a plastic kitchen spray dispenser to make a shallow bath, fill it with kerosene, lift up under the rear sprocket and totally immerse the chain, turn rear wheel slowly to rotate the chain a couple of times, wipe it, then apply gear oil and wipe off the excess. It’s a bit tedious but satisfying to stand back and look at a clean chain with a hint of oil showing. Thoughts sometimes turn to shaft drives, but the parasitic transmission losses probably explain why none of the machines lining up on the grid at the Moto GP have shafts.
    Dave, glad you are back in one piece and liked the Hornet. Enjoy!

  107. Jorge  October 13th

    Greetings Greynomad
    The Scottoiler is now on it’s third Hornet, and it’s not what it used to be. It was admittedly low maintenance on the last bike, but some oil goes on the tyre and down the side stand onto the floor until the flow is perfect. The seat has to come off every other week to make sure the header tank is full. If the siphon runs out it’s back to square one. The seal broke and the tank wouldn’t fill- still wont. At my 12000k service they suggested taking the top off and pouring the oil in. Now I’m readjusting the flow, hence more oil on the floor.
    To cut it short, I’m jealous of your centre stand and if I had one I wouldn’t get a Scottoiler. If I must fiddle with something it might as well be the bike. Your technique sounds good to me.
    In any event I’ve only kept the bikes for 20k so I’m working for the next owner. In the right hands, it’s a great device, but I might be the wrong guy to ask.

  108. Jorge  October 13th

    Greetings Dave
    The Plexifairing GT sounds good. I might try one next winter. Thanks for the research.

  109. grey nomad  October 14th

    Coincidentally, after our exchange about chain lubrication I took my new Hornet out this morning with 50 kilometres on the odo to put some run-in miles on it. At an intersection close to home I did a right angle left turn. Travelling at about 30 kph I accelerated moderately in 2nd gear in the apex of the turn when the rear wheel suddenly lost adhesion and slid out quite violently. I was able to steer into the slide and straighten up without dropping the bike. A check revealed that the road was clean and dry, but the chain, frame and left side and contact surface of the rear tyre were liberally coated with spray-on silicon lubricant, which I do not use. The tyre has now been washed in hot water and detergent, the surplus wiped off the chain, and the dealer alerted to the potential hazard created when excess lubricant applied to the chain is thrown onto the contact surface by centrifugal force. His response is awaited.

  110. Will  October 14th

    Good save. Whenever anything like that happens to me I instantly go into my ‘Dirt Bike’ riding mode.

    That’s why real chain lube comes with a sticky additive that keeps it where it belongs! Although it will attract dirt like a first grader at recess…

  111. grey nomad  October 14th

    The turn was a reflex action Will, but the save was more a tribute to the inherent stability of the Hornet. This is a very forgiving motorcycle at any speed. It would not have happened on the Jawa 350 two stroke twin I owned in 1958, as the chain was completely enclosed in a pressed metal case which prevented the egress of lubricant, and the ingress of dust and grit. It was a pretty little bike and very advanced for that era with avant garde fairings and uncluttered engine bay. It revved very freely in the nature of two strokes and had commendable acceleration, but was deficient in torque and would fade at 60 mph against a strong head wind. Doesn’t happen on a Hornet!!

  112. grey nomad  October 18th

    Has anyone experienced difficulty selecting gears when downshifting while running up to traffic lights on a new Hornet?

  113. Steve  October 18th

    Grey, I had the same problem when mine was new. The gearbox was real “sticky” in general. It seemed to straighten itself out in roughly 6 to 800 miles. I also relied heavily at the time on compression braking rather than using the brakes. That seemed to speed the process up a bit.

    I chalked it up to breaking in a stout transmission.

    Good luck.

  114. Jorge  October 18th

    Hi GN. Yes downshifting can baulk. I tend to use no higher than 4th around town to avoid being stranded in a high gear should an emergency stop happen. I have found though that by setting the idle to 15-1800rpm when cold it clicks down from any gear. My Scottoiler is behaving now. Maybe I was a bit harsh on it.

  115. Jesper  October 19th

    Never had any problems with mine. But that’s a 2003, don’t know if they’ve changed anything.

  116. grey nomad  October 19th

    Thanks boys. I have increased the idle speed which seems to have smoothed gearshifts in both directions. It can stay there till the 1000k service. It was a nice day here today and we gently put another 140 km on the clock. Even allowed a Softail DeLuxe to pass.

  117. Jorge  October 19th


  118. Leland  October 28th

    what do yall think would be a better bike for someone who has never accually owned a bike before ive drove a couple before biggest being a cbr 600. ive been looking at the 599 but there is a 919 at the dealership for 7000 and i could get the 599 for 6200. the 919 feels better but i think it might be too much power for me

  119. Jorge  October 28th

    Hi leland. Whichever one you buy, that dealer’s going to get a large bundle of your cash. Get them to give you some time at their next instruction course. You’ll learn some theory, try some tricks on each bike and see which suits you. They’ll get to make a sale. Pay for the lesson- maybe they’ll refund it if you buy a bike. You’ll be in a better position to decide. I’m too far away to be of any help. Have fun.

  120. Redshark  October 29th

    Hi Guys!

    Been a little while since I posted. Getting on to 3k miles on the bike, and the only problem I have had was a big fat nail (looked like a damn railroad spike!) in the back tire. Since I don’t have a centerstand yet, I had the local shop do all the work to put on a new tire. About three hundred all said for a very nice Michelin Tire. Otherwise the bike has been my mechanical soulmate. I feel like I did when I had my first real streeter, excited and wanting to make it the coolest around. Alas, small business expansion and kids wont allow all the stuff I would like, but the bike is so sweet to begin with that I just keep it maintained and ride it box stock (for now).
    I love the feeling of pride we all have in our 919/Hornet’s and believe it all to be justified. Maybe we can have a Run of our own somehere, someday and get to meet and greet with our fellow owners. Until then I will always check in once in a while to read and maybe put in my two cents worth.
    One last thing.
    I find it impossible to do anything but leave the Fatbikes (harley’s etc)
    sucking on my exhaust. Bunch of dentists and accountants who think they are “bikers”. Lol. Don’t even know better than to throw rev’s at me while riding their “Fatboy”! More than one has learned the hard way! LOLOLOL


  121. Anthony Jr.  November 2nd

    Thanks to all who’ve spoken back to me here, and sorry for being away so long.

    Looks like the 599 and 919 are lame ducks in 2007. I did see that Honda showed a CB1100F and CB1100R concept at the Tokyo Auto Show this year, but I doubt either will make it to the USA.

    Despite my affection for the Honda hooligan bikes, each was outsold four-fold by the rather pedestrian CBR600F4i; I suppose most Americans who want naked bikes buy Triumphs and Ducatis.

    In more personal news, we (being Southern Honda Powersports, where I work) have just taken in a used 919 with a dent in the tank, a faulty tach, and a gouged-up sissy bar. I am wants it so much bad. Occasionally (often, actually) we put too much into our trade-in bikes in order to facilitate the new bike sale, so this particular warhorse of a 919 is ~$4000USD, but I can get it somewhat cheaper. Is it a good deal?

    Also: any advice on how I can get my wife to buy into the 919 spirit?


  122. Jorge  November 3rd

    Ant, if you’re looking for a bike to trick up, you’ll save by getting that used 919 if you can get your workshop to let you have some of their downtime.

    Those big new CBs dont do it for me any more than the CB1300 does. As you say, it’s up to your US importer what they will go with. I guess it’s a lot about the “visual statement”, but I have heard a rumour that there’s also a new 900 coming. Who knows what market it’ll end up in? I like the 919 because it’s so friendly you can put all the power down with confidence- most Ducatis wont take you on.

    As for your wife, get her to try on some nice leather outfits.

  123. Steve  November 5th

    With all of Jesper’s generosity of bandwidth, I would like to ask What is the preferred windscreen of the experienced riders posting here?

    I need to buy one as I am going to start some longer distance riding and need to be able to relax a bit from the wind.

    Most of the solutions that I have seen are a bit cumbersome and “ugly” at best, detracting from the general “look of the bike”.

    At this point, I would love to know what the masses think of the options available as far as form and functionality.

    Thanks in advance Gentlemen.

  124. Jorge  November 5th

    Steve, there’s a direct relationship between size noise, ugliness, warmth and dryness. Why doesn’t somebody make clip-on foul weather screen that you can take straight off after an epic run? Check Dave, October 9.

  125. Jesper  November 5th

    I like the one Honda makes. It won’t turn it in to an all comfy goldwing though. But as Jorge say, the bigger the uglier.

  126. Jorge  November 5th

    Actually the screen debate is quite serious. I admit that the look of the Hornet was a factor in buying it. The design is beautifully balanced in my view without a screen. “B” roads and summer breezes are pure elation to me. But let me bore you.
    In the Swiss Engadine in August 2005 I was on my brother-in-laws bike, a naked Honda Revere 650 with no screen. I was freezing cold, and I still had a pass to negotiate to get home. It would have been madness to get colder. There are articles in European mags about this. Instead I went south to Chiavenna in Italy to thaw out (700 metres or so lower altitude), then over the Spluga Pass (old but spectacular). Had this option not been there, I would have had to check in somewhere or risk bad reactions on cold roads, not to mention pain and misery. That’s when I resolved to get a decent winter screen.
    For on long journeys they make STs, FJRs and BM tourers for this reason. The makers would like you to buy one. But you cant strip them back to a 919/Hornet for the summer.
    As for looks, 90% of the crowd dont care, and the guys on the Harleys or Ducatis aren’t going to change their opinion. With a decent winter screen you’ll get used to the noise in about 2 weeks, and from then on you’ll treasure the warmth.

  127. David  November 5th

    Check out the National Cycle Plexifairing 3. I bought one when I bought the Hornet and rode it from Los Angeles to Washington State. It stays on the bike. It doesn’t look bad and does a heck of a job cutting wind blast. It goes on or comes off in about 3 minutes once you have the handlebar mounts in place. I thought I might go with the OEM, but talked to several that said it still has a lot of wind blast across your upper torso. With the plexifairing it cuts all the windblast except for what the helmet protects you from. You do look over it.

  128. Nick  November 16th

    Hi! I tried Bandit,Fazer,Magna,Africa Twin,Transalp,Aprilia and several other bikes until I found the 919.Bought it without hesitation even not searching for oppinions in internet.Perfect universal bike!Great engine, easy handling!!Will be mine forever.I am from Bulgaria and after reading all postings in the blog I am much more happy I found this bike.Will buy a bigger wind shield may be for longer touring

  129. Randall  November 18th

    I love my 919 . Its a 2004, I was wondering if you had any good quility pictures I could use for desktop wallpaper. I was bored so I got on google looking for some, Honestly the picture of the honda with the lake mountians and tents in the background is about as close as I found to a good one.

  130. Jesper  November 20th

    I’ll see if I can find a few on my back up disc and turn them into wallpapers for you, Randall.

  131. Jorge  November 21st

    Well Nick and Randall, you got in just in time. It looks like the replacement Hornet/919 is going to be the CB1000R. (Google it) Gone is the trad headlight which lets you customise your comfort with your choice of screen. Do they want us to buy CB1300s? Didn’t the 919 sell?

  132. Randall  November 23rd

    Thanks man I dont use my hotmail email very often, But its basicaly my MSN messanger name if you want to use that.

    Gotta warn you though I run my monitor at 1920×1200 thats a 16:10 resolution.

    I’ll have to check that out Jorge.

  133. Randall  November 23rd

    My Hotmail is btw.

  134. Randall  November 23rd

    Im not sure I like the styling of the back, That last piece of plastic looks more like a liability. But besides that , To me that is a sleek looking bike.

    I have no Idea how well the 919 sold, only that I love mine. If I had one grip, I wish it had a tad more power. Dont get me wrong it will fly.

  135. Warwick  November 23rd

    I just bought an 06 900 Hornet here in New Zealnd and love it. Last bike I owned was a CB750 K2 so it’s been a while. Just a quick follow up to the chain lube discussion, today I bought some chain paste from a mate that runs the Elf depot here in Christchurch. Looks like tooth paste so I smeared it on with a tooth brush and took the bike for a quick blast, 140kph, checked it out when I got back and there was a few small spots on the rim and thats all. Elf mate said he sold some to a guy the other day that did a 1000km trip and the chain looked as lubicated as the day he applied the paste. I think Elf are the only company that make this paste? has anyone else used it?

  136. greynomad  November 29th

    The CB1000r is a bit like the Curate’s egg–good in parts. Whether the appearance of a particular design is pleasing is essentially subjective, but before committing capital to the manufacture of a new design, why don’t the makers consult their market through sites such as this. A significant part of the appeal of naked bikes is that they reduce the machine to pure, elegant function. The Hornet is a classic example. If Honda had given the styling brief to us it is likely that instead of the Darth Vardar front there would be a simple round headlight, the Thor plastic lightning bolts would never have found their way onto the radiator, and the exhaust would have exited under the seat. We could have helped by eliminating the excremental rear assembly which ruins the upswept line of the tail, and substituting a wheel-hugging fender and neat license plate and indicator mount. Mechanically we might have suggested a range of engine options such as larger throttle bodies even if there was a risk of approaching Fireblade performance at 2/3 the price. Otherwise it looks good. Son of Hornet.

  137. Steve  November 29th

    As always, Grey so eloquently shared an opinion. And I have to agree with him.

    At first glance, I don’t care for it all that much. My first impression is the step-child of a backwoods romp between a Yamaha FZ1 and a BMW K1200 with the genetic single rear swing arm having the dominant gene. I know that the rivalry between Honda and Yamaha is a longstanding tradition but to chase the styling and drop what “we” think made the 919 successful is a mistake in my opinion.

    I’m sure it probably goes like hell but like Grey stated, the simplicity of the Hornet / 919 is it’s magic. I can’t tell you about how many people have asked me if I can buy fairing for my 919. And I always ask them the same question, “Why?”.. And my riding friends with the really expensive bikes are always asking me if they can take mine out for a spin…

    I understand that Honda has to sell these machines to continue their very expensive production line but I think they are missing the boat with this one. It may be light and fast as hell, but in my opinion, it defeats the purpose of the CB series. Admittedly, Honda did not bring the “naked bike” to the production table first, but for a number of years they produced a truly brilliant offer that the other manufacturers didn’t quite understand or, “get”.

    That is what makes the 919 / Hornet special. It’s elegance and power in simplicity. It’s not flashy. It’s not the fastest thing on the planet, but it suits more riding styles, situations and climates than any other bike that I have ever owned.

    I will ride the new CB but I probably wouldn’t fork over money for one.

  138. Jorge  December 5th

    Well, as an owner of my third 919/Hornet, I can assure you all that they’re a doddle to sell. You just have to make sure of the buyer’s bona fides and give them a ride. They’ll be hooked.
    I don’t know if Honda reads owners’ blogs but they must know that they have a CB heritage to protect, as Steve points out. It looks as though they’re rushing off after the Kawasaki Z1000 with this wacky 1000R thing. Europe has a bike called a CBF1000 that looks and sounds (in reviews) like a half-faired Hornet (check click “Motorader”. The fairing looks similar to that on the CB1300S, which has pointy bits menacing my knee caps. Certainly Honda have a parts bin to die for, and signs are that they’re prepared to try. But so far they’ve hit either side of the target, and neither is a worthy successor to the 919/Hornet in my view. I’m in no hurry to replace it anyway. As one UK BIKE journo puts it- What a brilliant bike……

  139. Redshark  December 9th


    Having just got my first look at the CB1000R I must say my first impression is “What the ****?” Is that thing supposed to be in the next “Transformers” movie? Ugly as hell, is all I can say. And If they don’t make any more 919′s, then that’s fine with me. Just makes mine that much more unique. Here where I live (Fresno, CA) the local dealership told me they sold only three last year in the entire Central Valley (an area almost the size of the New England States!} I can’t tell you how many people have said “I’ve never seen one of those before.” Just shows that most riders just aren’t as discerning as we are. This is also evidenced by the fact that Cruiser bike sales are through the roof. {I’m sadly shaking my head.} I think that so many of these new riders that are spending Ungodly amounts of cash on bikes that are so limited in performance are just selling themselves short on the riding experience.
    “But, look how good I look!”

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad to see that more people are out riding bikes. And I am not one to say “You should ride this” or “you should ride that”, but going out to the local Harley Dealership and buying a new “Softail Deluxe” does NOT make you an “Outlaw Biker”.
    And these are the guys who have the nerve to down my “riceburner”. Ask any true outlaw, (and I know a few Norseman and Hell’s Angels)and he’ll tell you the same thing I will:
    What a joke.

    Maybe this is just a local California phenomenon, and I may seem a little bitter, but I have been dealing with this kind of prejudice for years and it just seems to be getting worse.

    Sorry about the rant, just had to get it off my chest.


  140. Will  December 10th

    I get the same thing here. I just tell them it’s made in Ohio. Went to Bike Night in Cape Coral, Florida last night. There were easily about 8000 Harleys, 20 Goldwings, 10 sportbikes and my 919. A few guys did know what it was, those who actually know one bike from another and gave me knowing smiles. Nearly everyone was over 60, dressed in official Harley logo clothes including boots so heavy they would probably tear you leg off in a crash. What really surprises me is the total lack of safety gear other than boots, no helmets of any kind and quite a few had they ‘Old Ladies’ on the back with even less on. Oh, an not even a couple dozen bikes out of the 8000 had a single bug on it’s headlight…

  141. Jorge  December 10th

    Hvad siger du, Jesper? It’s your blog. My take is that Honda now have three naked 600s- a Hornet, a CBF600N (that resembles a 919), and a CBF600S with a half fairing. The Swiss site (see December 5th) shows brand new replacements for the CBFs. So I predict more naked 1000s to come. Why else do something so loopy as the 1000R?

    Redshark and Will, bike showrooms here and in Australia try hard to sell you up to CBRs, STs and at the least CB1300s. It’s probably the same stateside. If I was a dealer I’d be no better. And in the US they’ll be getting double or triple the dollars for a Harley. It’s not money wasted- H.O.G. is the best social club on the planet. And Redshark, they are nice to look at and ride amongst . A lot cleaner than my Hornet too, most of the time.

    Honda will come up with a son-of-919 one day when they cant be bothered casting 919cc blocks any more. Meanwhile I’m off tomorrow for 2000 kilometres. I’m in such a good mood on a run I even wave to BMWs .

  142. manuel antonio sanchez  December 26th

    hola que tal , espero que tengan una muy feliz navidad , mi moto es 919 del 2003 , aunqueno lo crean es muy rapida , el dia primero de enero de este 2007 al salir de un puente cuando iba a tomar la curva se me derrapo y me estrelle contra las protecciones de metal , me fracture una vertebra lumbar y dos o tres costillas , estuve encamado por tres meses pero gracias a dios la libre , el problema es que para mi las llantas que traen de fabrica son muy duras , yo las cambie por unas soft , pues con las duras no puedes tomar una curva sin peralte a mas de cincuenta y yo la tome a mas de cien km por hora y sin peralte , ahora con las llantas soft paso por donde mismo a mucho mayor velocidad , mi comentario es que para correr en cualquier lugar debes tener el equipo adecuado como son llantas , la presion de las llantas , conocer el camino , y llevar las protecciones adecuadas , todas las precauciones son pocas , un saludo a todos .

  143. Greynomad  December 27th

    Is that Manuel from Barcelona?

  144. Daniel from Atlanta  December 28th

    Hi all,

    Glad to have stumbled upon this site. I looked at a 2002 “Matte-black” 919 yesterday evening. Pretty awesome bike so far, and I’m desperately seeking to replace my 1998 Bandit 1200S (shamefully I have a fairing and not the true naked look/feel).

    The one big question I have to ask you guys is: does the tank width bother you? My first impression from sitting on the bike was, “dang, that tank is wide”. I’m going to take another look at the bike this Saturday for a second impressions, but I want the bike to feel like its somewhat a part of me when I ride (moreso than cumbersome).

    Thanks for the input,


  145. Jorge  December 30th

    Hi Daniel from Atlanta
    I guess you will have tried a 919 by now and answered your own tank width question. The part of the tank that the thighs engage is not particularly wide. The lack of a sculpted bulge ahead of the knees is a plus for me. Being tall I can move about on the seat, perch, slouch and generally vary my posture without worrying about the tank. Each to his own, but it suits me. Let us know how you find it.

  146. Daniel  December 30th

    Jorge et al,

    I ended up test riding the bike today and bought it.

    I drove it home only, so I don’t have a lengthy impression, but my initial thoughts follow.

    Incredibly smooth power delivery and motor. Plenty of power. 6th gear pulls on the freeway are pretty strong.

    The wide tank actually became a non-issue once I started to ride. I didn’t neven notice it.

    Handling is pretty good, the bike feels much more nimble under speed than one would detect by sitting on the bike and rocking it between the legs.

    For highway riding, speeds up to 60mph with the Buell M2 flyscreen are pretty tame. However, over that and the wind really gets to you. I ducked to the tank and it was alot better but a little stressful on the back.

    All in all, the first impression is that this bike beats the heck out of my 1998 Bandit 1200. I love the fuel injection, 6 speed, and liquid cooling combined with a slight weight decrease.

    I’m looking forward to riding the heck out of this thing soon!


  147. Will  December 31st

    Manny’s post…

    Hello such, I hope you have a very happy Christmas, my bike is 919 2003 aunqueno believe it is very fast, the first day of January this 2007 to emerge from a bridge when it would take the curve I derrapo and I – star protections against metal, I fracture a lumbar vertebra and two or three ribs, I was encamado for three months but thanks to the god of self, the problem is that for my tires to bring factory were harsh, I changed some soft, because with the tough can not take a curve without peralte over fifty and I take over a hundred kilometers per hour and without peralte, now with the soft tires to the same passage where much faster, my comment is that run anywhere you need to have the proper equipment such as tires, the tire pressure, knowing the way, and bring the appropriate protections, all precautions are few, my greetings to all.

  148. Greynomad  January 1st

    Complimente de la temporada Manuel. Eleccion de los neumaticos y el correcto mantienemento son fundamentales para carretera, ya que han descubierto. Descubriras que el compuesto de neumaticos mas blandos se desgaste con mayor rapidez que la fabrica suministra, neumaticos mas duro, pero a la majora de la adhesion que haya encontrado. Espero que se recupere totalmente de su lesion y que siquen disfrutando de su Hornet/919 para muchos viajes por venir. La mayoria de los lectores de este sitio (proporcionades generosamente por Jesper) tienen en Ingles como nuestro primer idioma. Asimismo, ayudara a nostros para compartir experiencias, que nos quataria hacer, si las contribuciones son en Ingles. Disponer de un seguro y feliz ano nuevo.
    Grey Nomada

    Compliments of the season Manuel.
    Choice of tyres and correct maintenance are critical to roadholding, as you have discovered. You will find that the softer compound tyres will wear more quickly than the factory supplied, harder tyres, but give the improved adhesion you have found. I hope you have recovered completely from your injury and that you continue to enjoy your Hornet/919 for many journeys to come. Most readers of this site (generously provided by Jesper) have English as their first language. It will assist us in sharing your experiences, which we would like to do, if contributions are in English. Have a safe and happy new year.

  149. Redshark  January 18th

    Fellow 919er’s,

    Greetings and a Happy New Year!

    I send this post a bit sheepishly.
    Let me explain:

    As you all know, I have been ranting about “posers” for some time now, and for the most part my feelings are the same.


    Last weekend, I decided to bundle up and take a ride into the hills outside of my home town (actually the Sierra Nevada Mountain Range) and started out at a local cafe just at the beginning of my run to have some breakfast. I noticed about six Harley’s out in the parking lot and thought “Oh great, here we go.” But I went in anyway, and well, long story short (rare for me!) they were some very affable fellows. Only one had more than a year of street experience, so I was surprised that they were out in the cold weather (about the low 40′s I believe)! I ended up sitting with them and having breakfast and it was a very good time. They were all very interested in the 919 and when they found out how much riding experience I had they were full of questions, which I did my best to answer. One said that my 919 was “Beautiful and scary.” When I told them about the power and handling of the bike and the awesome engineering, they were all very impressed. So we decided to to keep the ride in the foothills because the upper elevations were under a lot of snow and chains were being required. It was a fun ride, though I had to supress the temptation to just let the 919 go and leave them all behind. I did, a couple of times, just to show them what she could do, but always slowed down to let them catch up.

    So, I got taught a lesson. Prejudice is wrong. I realized I was a snob about “Posercycles” and the “Wannabe’s” who rode them. They may not ride what or how I do, but they were some good guys, and I will try to be more open minded in the future. I just wish I had some knee dragger’s around here to ride with, too.


  150. jeff  January 20th

    Hi guys,
    Just recently bought a 05 with 12000km on the clock. I have a knock in the engine when accelerating from about 2000rpm upwards which I am sure is piston slap.Have checked a few sites and it would seem that this is a characteristic of the 919 engine and is not a worry-Have any of you got this problem?

  151. Jesper  January 20th

    Not me, Jeff. Never had that experience.

  152. Steve  January 20th

    I have heard of that in a couple of other inline four cylinder machines that were primairly cold climate bikes. I was told by quite a few people that excessive use of choke or engines that are running constant rich are more prone to damaging the piston and cylinder wall from “lubrication washing”.. It was brought up during a discussion on piston slap.

    Just a thought.

  153. Will  January 21st

    Make sure you don’t have a stiff spot or two in your chain before you start tearing into the engine.

  154. jeff  January 24th

    Thanks for your replies fella’s.
    Not a bad wee ride are they?

  155. greynomad  January 24th

    They are a bonny ride Jeff. You won’t regret your purchase. Holding the handle butt of a long screwdriver against your ear and the tip against the cylinder barrel and moving it around the motor while it’s running provides a crude stethoscope for diagnosing rattles. Piston slap is sometimes accentuated on a trailing throttle so revving and throttling back might help identify it. There is a solenoid activated flap in the aircleaner intake duct on the Hornet which opens and closes at low engine speeds to reduce induction noise. If that is faulty it might be contributing to the sound you are hearing. You may feel that it would be worth getting a Honda agent to check it if it is spoiling your fun. Sorry about the delay in responding. Been away.

  156. Jesper  January 24th

    Wow! awesome technical insight there, Greynomad. Thanks a bunch for helping out.

  157. Greynomad  February 5th

    How’s this for a work of pure genius? The Hornet and Suzuki were parked side by side in the garage. I decided to check tyre pressures. Did the Hornet then crouched in front of the SV with the compressor hose. The valve was back there behind the forks so I grabbed the handlebar and rolled her forward by turning the front wheel to bring the valve forward. That had the effect of folding the prop stand, as they sit on an old carpet, and I was unable to stop the inexorable collapse of the SV into the Hornet. No damage to the Hornet, but a nasty little dent in the SV tank, hitherto unblemished, to repair which the quote is $450 AU. You’re never too old to learn!

  158. Will  February 6th

    I feel for you, my 919 fell over in the driveway when I was headed out and noticed I forgot to grab my cell phone and only put the side stand down about half way, turned and walked away about 5 steps only to hear ‘that’ sound…

  159. Steve  February 6th

    I hope you came away unscathed Grey.. Quite timely I might add. I was too embarrassed to post my little mishap.

    I had a quite similar incident after starting up the bike last weekend and letting it run for a while. It’s been below freezing, so a ride was out of the question for me, but I was lighting it up to avoid freezing and such. This is when I reached around the front wheel to grab an allen wrench and kicked the stand accidentally. The bike came over and I caught the fully warmed up motorcycle with the back of my hand.. In all of possible places, the wonderfully colored stainless pipes at the point where they come out of the engine.. All piping hot and pretty.

    Needless to say, I lost a lot of the skin from the back of the thumb knuckle to about three inches above my wrist.. It was amazing as it was instinct to do something so incredibly stupid.. Stop a motorcycle from tipping over by grabbing the hottest and most exposed part.

    I am now permanently striped, and slightly smarter as a result.. But my bike is dent free. Yes, I am an idiot.. I would have eagerly paid for the body work and paint.

    I must go apply some ointment and fresh bandages.

    PS: Does anyone have any ideas how to get the neato color back on the pipes? It smelled like Vietnam for a while.. But there are patterns on the steel that just won’t go away..



  160. Greynomad  February 6th

    Thanks boys, it’s always good to know you have company. That sounds like a painful injury Steve. Burns are always unpleasant. I hope you are feeling a bit more comfortable now. My only injury was a slightly concave ego. Sorry, can’t help with the pipes issue, Steve.
    Keep smiling.

  161. jeff  February 15th

    Have disconnected the flapper valve-don’t think it has increased the power at all but might be a little smoother on acceleration. The noise I have is heard at ‘power on’. The dealer told me it was injector noise but I am convinced it is piston noise-but never mind goes like it should otherwise.–where are you guys from anyway-I’m in New Zealand.

  162. Will  February 15th

    Florida, I had my flapper open for about a year and hooked it up again last week. Oddly, there seemed to be no difference than when it was unhooked except that it is quiter, so I’m thinking maybe the performance enhancement that I thought unhooking it might have been just in my mind all along.

  163. David  February 16th

    Hello from Clarkston in Washington State. Being from the Pacific Northwest a week ago was the first time to get the bikes out (winter has been a real zinger this year). I ride a 2000 1100cc Honda Sabre and a 2003 919 Hornet. The Sabre is a wonderful laid back cruiser with adequate performance and surprising handling until, of course, you climb on the Hornet. I keep thinking that I want to move the handle bars back 1″ and up 1″ and have purchased the extender to make this happen. It looks like it will require some cable adjustments or lengthening. I keep thinking I want to do this, but I certainly don’t want to negatively affect the handling of the bike. What is your opinion? Each time I ride it agressively I think I need to leave well enough alone and not make any changes, but when I’m just loafing down the road I think that the extension would be a little more comfortable. Please, let me know your thoughts or if you have done this, what do you think?

  164. Will  February 17th

    Can’t help you there, I actually did exactly the opposite with some TAG dirt bike bars designed for a KX80…

  165. Jorge  February 17th

    It sounds like you’re the guinea pig on handle bars. I guess it’s human to want to customise and tailor your bike to best suit your style. My practice has been to resist the urge. I find that coming back to the Hornet from another bike (and vice versa) heightens my appreciation of both. That said, the bars wont affect the way the bike handles per se. It also sounds like a modest change compared to what some in the cruiser fraternity do. Good luck with it and let us know.

  166. David  February 18th

    I decided to leave well enough alone and not change the bars. The bike is such a joy to ride agressively that I don’t want to change the handling as, I’m sure, the bar change might affect to some degree. I do have the Sabre for those laid back trips down the road, but it seems to be harder and harder to climb on it when the Hornet is sitting there as it to say, “Take me and we’ll re-define quick.”

  167. Max  February 18th

    Just got myself a 2007 Hornet – and, man, what a great bike! My wife is getting seriously jealous. Here’s a question about the one thing that bothers me just a bit: the throttle is a bit on the “snatchy” side and I’m thinking that the chain won’t appreciate this for too long (apart from the fact that in heavy traffic conditions it’s not exactly great) is there anything I can do to smoothen out the acceleration? Cheers, and stay safe.

  168. Steve  February 18th

    Hi Max..

    Do youself a favor and give it a month or two.. Mine was the same way and it was almost too much until it worked itself in. Now, it’s smooth as glass..

    And the Wife will get more and more jealous until you let her ride it.

    Congrats and safe riding.

  169. Max  February 18th

    Hi Steve

    Thanks for that. I’ll be patient. As for my wife: she’s about to get her license and take up my old CB250!! I have a hunch that the jealousy will reach a whole new level once she gets to know the difference between the two. But hey, you gotta start somewhere.

    Thanks again,

  170. Will  February 18th

    I think Honda plans those kinda things into their Longevity Plan on the CB’s. Mine is smooth as glass now, too. Totally bulletproof, almost no maintenance bike. Change the oil, oil the chain, check the tire pressure, wash it (optional).

  171. Jorge  February 18th

    Welcome Max
    Try increasing your idle speed to say 1500rpm until it warms up.

  172. Max  February 19th

    Thanks Will and Jorge.
    I’ll try up the idling speed til warm up, and let you know how it works. Other than that, seems that some patience is required. Planning on going for trip between Sydney and Melbourne here in OZ; am curious what it’ll feel like over the long haul (c. 850 kms/540 mils).

    For that trip I think I should get a windshield. Problem is, I don’t really like any of the translucent ones on the market. Does anyone know of solid shields (like the ones you see on some Buells) that would fit the Hornet?

    Safe ride.

    I just love the thing!

  173. Will  February 19th

    I had a little Buell one on my 919 for a while but found that at highway speeds it threw all the wind into my shoulders and made it tiring. I took it off and it’s better without it. I’d try to find something taller than the Buell bug screen.

  174. jeff  February 22nd

    Hi Max
    Mine had a givi on when I bought it,looks ok but would look better colour coded(Bike red ,screen Black). much better on the highway,works best between 90 and 180 kms gets a bit windy after that but then so does this rider,keeps the bugs off the jacket though!

  175. David  February 23rd

    I read that you are not fond of the clear screens; however I put National Plexifairing GT on my 919 when I rode it 1200 miles back from Los Angeles, CA to Clarkston, Washington. I was so pleased with it that it stayed on the bike and the Honda 919 windscreen stays in the box, at least for now. At 120mph it really takes the sting out of wind bite. It looks pretty decent as well. I’ll try to get a pic up on my web site so you can see how it looks on the bike.

  176. Will  February 23rd

    Here it is on a 919…

  177. Jesper  February 23rd

    Woa! that thing looks… well to be polite, a little odd.

    1200 miles in one take or what? The longest I’ve ridden in one day on mine is about 650 miles.

    Done more than 3000 miles across two weeks. Fully loaded, 2 up, and with the OEM flyscreen. No problem.

  178. Max  February 23rd

    Thanks David, I can see that this would definitely keep the wind at bay. And I guess for a long trip that would be hard to beat. Not sure if it’s aesthetically what I’m after though.

  179. David  February 23rd

    Yep, that’s it. It does look smaller, in person, but it does a remarkable job of keepig the wind at bay and offers great hand protection as well. I thought the same as you, but after 5 days (No, I didn’t do 1200 miles in one day) I fell in love with it. You look over it, not through it, and it seems very stable at high speed.

  180. Steve  February 26th

    It makes me laugh how I struggle with the concept of getting a windscreen for my “naked bike”. I love how the bike looks out of the box, and want to do little if nothing to modify it as that is truly why I purchased it to begin with. All of the windscreen models that I have seen “contort” the entire concept. I will keep looking as I want to take much longer rides, but barring designing one myself, I think that mine is going to remain, yes, naked.

    I also have to laugh at how a few of the rest of this small 919 community struggles with the same conundrum. It’s such a personal and telling admission when one sees one model of windscreen or another. To this day, I still haven’t seen one that says to me, “Hey.. That’s a real compliment to the entire machine, and it works well…” But it still comes down to a mix of personal taste and functionality, and that changes from owner to owner.

    I think it goes to show quite a bit about the people who didn’t just buy this bike but researched it, played the field, thought about it for as long as he / she could stand and finally stormed in and bought one.

    Long and fast rides may be a little rigorous but for some reason, I still like it that way.. I like cleaning the multi-colored bug guts off my jacket. And I love the feeling and pressure of going 120 mph on a 919. It somehow makes me earn more respect for the machine underneath me and what I’m still learning to do with it.

    I really don’t want to create a new windscreen… I’m not even done creating the mirrors and a potential new extended rear set.

  181. Will  February 26th

    I have about 6 different riding jackets for riding in different weather and have found that the jacket makes a bigger difference in wind resistance than a small wind screen on the 919.

    Least wind resistance is with a mesh jacket with full armor, then mesh/armor with zip-in liner, then tight leather, then come the others like the touring jackets and loose fitting leathers.

  182. Max  February 26th


    I couldn’t agree more with you. You have written an ode to the naked bike worth remembering! So, I will go on and keep treasuring the thing for what it is.


  183. Will  February 26th

    Bought these mirrors which are of excellent quality for any $$ and let you see just past the ends of your elbows while being low and out of way feeling on the bars and look great.

  184. Daniel  February 26th

    Will, do you have any images with those mirrors on the bike? They look good in that stock photo, but curious as to the look on-bike.



  185. Will  February 26th

  186. Daniel  February 26th


    Thanks for the images. I think they definitely look better than the stockers. I’m currently running no mirrors which looks great, but hardly safe. Will condsider these.


  187. Will  February 27th

    One thing, after 2 years of total neglect and a lot of riding in the rain they are showing a tiny bit of surface rust spotting on the stems. The mirror portion is like new. I probably should have waxed them good when I first got them, or clear coated the stems.

  188. Randall  March 6th

    Just thought Id say hi to every one. Finally got to get out and RIDE a few days back. Its been to dam cold here *cheyenne W.y..

    Of course, its allready snowed since my last ride. If its not snowing its blowing. But anyways. Good trails every one.

  189. Steve  March 7th

    Greetings Gentlemen,

    I had a friend end up in a collision yesterday. Some fat sow in a minivan, yelling at her kids and on the phone at the same time. Pulled out in front of him… *boom*

    Apparently never saw him. Fractured femer and ankle.

    Not to be the harbinger of doom and gloom, I want everyone to wake the hell up and truly realize that everyone on the road IS out to kill you. They just don’t know it.

    It’s always a great ride on my 919. But you have to stay very awake and aware.

    *brightining up my lamps for tomorrow’s commute.*

    I want to be seen Dammit..

  190. Greynomad  March 17th

    Steve–sorry to hear about your friend. Nasty injuries which will take a long time to heal. We are very exposed, and it is important to develop strategies which take into account that other road users make mistakes. To paraphrase John Philpot Curran, the price of safety is eternal vigilance. To that might be added that a safety margin needs to be allowed when riding in traffic. Save the fast riding for the open road. I went for a ride with a cousin yesterday, who is 65. He stopped behind me at a traffic light, then came up beside me to tell me that there was a nail in my rear tyre. [The new bike runs Michelin Hi-Sport tyres. They are good, possibly better than the Bridgestones on the last bike.] Rode home and there were 2 nails, not one. Pulled the first, which was a small brad about 10mm x 1mm. It had not penetrated the tyre, but the second was 30mm x 2mm (1″ x 1/16″ and it had gone through. Wheel off. Tyre expert said it was OK to plug. $40Au later it is back on and running, but I will feel some reservations until it is replaced. Any views about plugged tyres?

  191. Jesper  March 17th

    In Denmark there’s a speed limit on plugged tires. So you only run them to get where you’re replacing the tire.

    I guess i depends on the temperature differences in your rubber. Don’t think the plug will stay put all the way from stand still cold to track day hot.

  192. Jesper  March 17th

    Btw. I highly recommend Michelin Pilot Power, they stick like glue, also in the wet. But the rubber is soft, so they might not last you long if you commute a lot on freeways.

  193. Greynomad  March 18th

    Thanks for the recommendation Jesper, which confirms Will’s view of them in his note of 29 June last. Although the repairer has said that the tyre is serviceable, and it still has about 60% of tread left, there’s always that lingering doubt, so it’s time to change. Anthony Jr, did you pick up the damaged Hornet you were lusting after?

  194. Larry Charness  March 22nd

    I’ve really enjoyed reading this site. Winter is almost over, and I’m seriously considering buying a new 919. My 1st new bike. I’ve been riding for almost 40 years and currently own a 1997 Kawasaki eliminator 600. I took it on a 2000 mile trip last summer. I’m short and it fits me well, but I want more power and would love to have fuel injection. The 919 fits me well, and I like the naked/standard style. Here is my question…Is this bike too fast? I am not a wimp at all, however, I’ve never had a real fast bike, and when I see them for sale on the internet, at times people are selling them cuz the bike is simply too much power. I use my bike to commute, and to take my beloved long twisty mountain trips each summer. The reviews always call it fast street bike, but don’t say much about long trips. Thanks for your comments

  195. Steve  March 22nd

    Gray, I also have the Michelins noted previously. On a quite spirited ride on a very hot day, I managed to find the only perfectly positioned sharp rock on my way home from work. Upon arrival at home, I confirmed with the old spit test that the rear tire was indeed leaking. I carefully patched it myself and have 3K on the tire since with no surprises. Now I don’t do high speed runs or long freeway miles, but I can no longer find the patch and the rear holds better pressure than the front. It’s a great compound for the average commuter.

    And welcome Larry.. The 919 is what I consider a very strong bike with it’s low weight and high torque. I would imagine it to be quite different making the transfer from the Kawasaki. But my belief is that it is no stronger than what you are used to unless you intentionally dial it on. As I have limited racing skills nor the desire to perish early, I have taken my sweet time in finding where the bike’s limits are in comparison with where my limits are. In short, there is enough power there to scare the hell out of you, but you have to mentally then physically make the decision to do that. On the other side of the argument, there is power available to get you out of potentially dangerous situations. That has come to pass personally quite a few times and I was thankful on every occasion.

    All in all, it’s a wonderful machine. Mildly outfitted, it’s a comfortable ride on longer trips. Perhaps not the cruiser position that you are accustomed to but it’s a different approach to riding. Especially on your mountain trips. It’s a whole new ball game and a different way of looking at those twisting paths.

    For reference, my Father is a cruiser nut and he loved it.. Begs me to ride it every time he is in town. He told me that he wanted to get one. His wife told me that he isn’t..

    And that’s that.

    Good luck on your research.


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  197. Trippy  March 25th

    Hello all!

    I’ve just finished reading the posts and enjoyed them all immensely. On a few occasions you guys had me laughing audibly! Thank you Jesper for the site.

    I started out at 14 years of age on a 1980 Kawasaki LTD 750…loved it. How I survived it is anyones guess.My last bike was a Harley that I worked on more than rode. Today, I was searching the various bike manufacturers and found Suzuki’s SV650, Yamaha’s FZ-6, and lastly, Honda’s 919. The 919 impressed me most and desiring to learn more I found this site.

    Thank you all very much for your input, this is a great site and heres to “flatchat”…heh (you guys ride too fast for me).


  198. Colin  March 28th

    I’ve had my Hornet for 4 months and done 8000ks. My friend has been test driving similar bikes and I have been riding them too. There isn’t one that has come close to the Honda and I doubt there will. I love it, it’s better and more reliable than my love life lol.

  199. Jesper  March 28th

    Yea, I’m leaning more and more towards just accepting to grow old with my 919.

    Finding another bike just a versatile and still high in fun factor doesn’t seem likely.

    If anything, I think I’d add a smaller pure fun focused bike (600cc race, or supermoto) to my collection rather than replacing the Hornet.

  200. 129CBRider  March 28th

    Larry, I’ve never found the 919 to be ‘overpowered’. It’s not a power wheelie machine the way it’s set up. I went up one tooth on the front sprocket to get rid of the ‘buzz’ at 75-80 mph Interstate speeds and that helped to almost completely eliminate wheelies. The fuel injection is mapped for a really smooth, flat torque curve, very controllable. It will do stoplight to stoplight quite nicely tho, xD! My old ’82 CB750 was way more scary in the over-powered department.
    Like Jesper is thinking, I just traded an old ’92 KLR650 for a plated ’94 XR600R to have for the gravel roads and fire trails I ride up in the Smokey Mountains.

  201. Larry Charness  March 31st

    I JUST DID IT!. I bought a 2006 919 on ebay. Good price, very well cared for. The seller bought his dream Ducati, and sold me the 919 with 5000 miles. I’m in Mich. and the bike is in Connecticut. My wife and I are going to go to N.Y. City for a couple of days, then she’ll drop me off in Ct. where I’ll pick up the bike and I’m going to spend a week with it in N.Carolina driving mountain roads. There is a road on the Carolina Tenn. border called the tail of the dragon (I’m sure most of you know about it) 318 curves in 11 miles. I’ve been thinking about this bike for awhile, and am very excited about owning one. This site has been huge for me! Thanks for all the advice.

  202. Steve  March 31st

    Congratulations Larry.

    That sounds like a great ride. I’ve seen the “Tail” on TV before and always wanted to ride it.

    Have a great trip and take some pictures to post. I look forward to hearing how it went.

  203. 129CBRider  March 31st

    This is the Gap from North to South. The rider cut it off at 10 minutes. I have done it easily in 16 minutes from the lake to the motel. You’ll be coming from the north if you come down 129 from the interstate or Gatlinburg, which is itself a great ride. Just check your tire pressure.

  204. Larry Charness  April 10th

    well, heres the story. I bought my dream bike on ebay in Connecticut. A 2006 919 with 5800 miles. I have been looking at a new 919 all winter. I have never owned a new bike. After 19 years of raising kids, I felt ready. Money was still an issue, and ebay was the answer. My wife and daughter drove me from Michigan where I live to Ct. to get the bike. The folks I bought it from were fantastic. He loved the 919, and put on 2 brothers exhaust, nice flyscreen, K&N filter, etc. Then he bought his dream bike. A Ducati crotchrocket. We went for a ride together, and I knew the niner was all I had hoped it would be. I said goodbye to him and his wife, and seeya and thanks to my wife and daughter and rode down to Washington D.C. to visit my family. Halfway there it started to rain, and didn’t stop. All I wanted to do was to get my 919 into the mountains and ride the twisty roads. After a 1 day visit in D.C., and a promise from the weather channel that the rain would stop, off I went bound for higher elevations. Not only did the rain not stop, but the higher I went, the worse the fog became, and I had to lift my faceshield, and take the stinging rain so I could see. I gave up, and did a very scary blind u-turn and headed back to lower elevation. The weather on the computer said I had a day and a half of half decent weather, and then lots more rain, and snow in Michigan by the weekend. This was quickly becoming an aborted vacation. I decided to go home. I was in southern Virginia and had to get to the other side of the Appalachians, so up I went again. It was one of the scarier rides I ever took, but we made it across, and the sun came out for the first time since I left Ct. I stopped at a laundromat, and dried my clothes, and headed back to Michigan. I stopped in a motel in S. Ohio, and when I woke the next day, It was not raining, but really cold, and very windy. I hunkered in and blasted back at high speed. Two good things about the trip: At 58, I’m still tough, and I’m grateful for that, and the niner and I have had an adventure. We’ve bonded.

  205. Greynomad  April 18th

    That was quite a ride Larry. It’s one you will remember. Although the weather was temperamental, the 919 was constant, which you will see from the posts on this site is the common experience. There might be times in the future when the bloke who sold it to you will wonder whether he has exchanged the substance for the shadow.
    How different our weather is. At about the time you were dodging snow we had a fortnight when the temperature was close to 40C (90′s Fahrenheit). Looked at the Tail of the Dragon on the web. It’s a bit like our Black Spur–both great rides. Enjoy your 919 and stay in touch.

  206. Adriaan  May 8th

    Hi All,

    My Dad just bought a 2005 919 last week. He’s owned a few bikes in his life, the last one being a BMW R80. He is smiling ear to ear, as happy as a pig in mud!

    I am also considering another bike. I have paid my dues on a Honda VTR 250. I have ridden his Hornet and its a blast.

    Only thing is that I quite fancy the new Triumph Street Triple. I will be trying to go for a test ride on one soon. To make matters worse, the new Aprilia Shiver has also caught my eye.

    I commute rain or shine about 50km’s per day through heavy traffic (Auckland) and also do fun day trips on the weekend.

    Any thoughts on this?

    Great blog, good info.



  207. Adriaan  May 8th

    Forgot to say that I may also want to pillion the missus from time to time for short fun trips around town.

  208. Greynomad  May 18th

    G’day Adriaan.
    Can’t comment on the Triumph or the Aprilia, but there are plenty of sites where they are evaluated on the net. The best way is to ride them yourself, and talk to riders who have them, (allowing a suitable discount for owner hyperbole!) If price is an issue the dice is heavily loaded in favour of the Hornet on this side of the Tasman Sea. The new price for the Speed Triple here is $15,799 Au, the Shiver is $14,999 and the Hornet $11,990 (before haggling). Those relativities will probably be reflected in the used market, and in the cost of parts. The experience here is that anything sourced from Europe, particularly Italian products, are expensive when compared with Japanese goods. As the Hornet is now in run-out mode there is quite some scope for negotiation on price, particularly if you are offering a cleanskin deal. You will be buying reliability, performance and good looks, with the capacity to carry two effortlessly. However, it is ultimately your money and your decision. Let us know what you do.
    Good luck.

  209. Larry Charness  May 19th

    I thought I’de drop a note to let y’all know that the more I ride my niner, the more I like it. It is full of thrills, but when I ride conservatively, it is a very nice, stable bike. However, I have to admit that I do have trouble staying conservative on this bike. I,m getting ready for my summer trip, and just ordered what I hope is a nice luggage set (saddlebags, tank bag, and trunk, all soft) from J.C. Whitney Co.It was inexpensive, which is all I can afford. Advice please, on what to put on the bike to keep straps from rubbing the paint. I’ve heard that Saran Wrap works. Neoprene rubber? I’ve seen tape on bikes. Any thoughts/ advice? I know that this is mainly a European site, do any of you folks come here to ride the states? I rode through Europe in 1968 on a BSA Royal Star for 6 months. I was 18, and had a ball.

  210. Adriaan  May 19th


    Test rode the Triple as well as the Hornet…

    Picked up my new black, 900 Hornet this past Friday. I couldn’t be happier. Bang for buck , everything just pointed back to the Hornet. You just can’t beat that.

    Went for a short (1ookm’s) spin with my dad on Sunday and ended up at Puhoi, a biker pub.

    Really enjoyed it, so much usable power from the get go. Just love this bike!!

  211. Michael  May 23rd

    Not sure if these comments are from this May (2008) or from last May. So I may be one of those dorks commenting on an ancient, cob-webbed thread…
    I sold my CBR929 (Fireblade) 2 years ago and I am starting to look for a new machine. I actually paused to admire the 919 since probably 2002, so I am just letting that appreciation steep a little.
    It has been good reading all the comments.
    I was strongly considering a new Blade (08 1000rr) but I think I would ride the 919 more and I have a flock of potential passengers and the 919 has to beat the heck out of a Blade for two-up riding. It is also a lot easier on the wallet. :)
    Anyway, I will be haunting about until I pull the trigger on another bike…

    Eastern Washington State USA

  212. Jesper  May 23rd

    Comments are for this May, mate. Guees I need to fix that. Didn’t count on the discussion going on for years :-)

    But I’m glad it does, not doubt about it. The 919 is bitchin for two up riding, Michael. I’ve been on several vacations on it with my better half, and she has no complaints. At least not about the bike ;-)

  213. Michael  May 23rd

    As I progress on my “bike hunt” I will probably seek a little additional input here.
    Glad you have it available.

    On a different note, my wife is a teacher and she wanted to look into teaching abroad this year and one of the places she wanted to look was NZ. Hook her up and we can go riding together. Hah!


  214. Jesper  May 23rd

    That would be great Michael, but she’d have to look in Denmark. New Zealand is on the other side of the mud ball from me. :-)

  215. Michael  May 23rd

    Oops. Well, Denmark would be alright too. Sounds like motorcycle regulations are a little tougher there however.
    Know of any “english as a second language” teaching opportunities there let me know.
    My local dealer has a 2007 919 on the showroom floor looking a little dusty and I see a number of 2006 and 2005 models for sale on the internet.
    It may be a month or two before I make a decision (longer if my wife decides to take a job in Timbuku or wherever).


  216. Adriaan  May 26th

    Hi Michael,

    Your wife should have no problem getting a teaching job in NZ. Teachers are in demand over here.


    I have had my 919 for little over a week now and still grin everytime I ride it, such and excellent bike!

    Went for a 200km spin in failry twisty roads North of Auckland, what an absolute blast!!

    I don’t know why Honda stopped making it – not really replacing it with anything. The dealer that I bought it from said it was their top seller and he has just received the last 4 in NZ.

    The “replacement” is a CB1000R, which looks like a nice bike, but at NZ$19K as opposed to NZ$11K for the 919, it is hardly a realistic replacement. Also it does not look that good for 2 up.

  217. Adriaan  May 27th

    Something went wrong?? Will repost:

    Hi Michael,

    Your wife should have no problem getting a teaching job in NZ. Teachers are in demand over here.


    I have had my 919 for little over a week now and still grin everytime I ride it, such and excellent bike!

    Went for a 200km spin in failry twisty roads North of Auckland, what an absolute blast!!

    I don’t know why Honda stopped making it – not really replacing it with anything. The dealer that I bought it from said it was their top seller and he has just received the last 4 in NZ.

    The “replacement” is a CB1000R, which looks like a nice bike, but at NZ$19K as opposed to NZ$11K for the 919, it is hardly a realistic replacement. Also it does not look that good for 2 up.

  218. Adriaan  May 27th

    Hi Jesper,

    Can you please give me more info on your Renthal bars? I’m looking at fitting the Street Fighter Generic, Street Fighter Low or Ultra Low. Looks as if you have an Ultra Low fitted. Did you drill the locating holes for the locating pins on the controls? Would prefer not to grind them off as the bike is still under warrantee. I have concerns about drilling holes into the renthals though, as they are aluminium – fatique??

    Thanks, Adriaan

  219. Jesper  May 28th

    I didn’t drill holes, but filed off the nubs on the controls. I applied some double sided foam tape to the bars under the controls to prevent them from twisting. I’ve had the setup for years and went to several track days. Never had any problems.

  220. ET-Memphis  May 30th

    I’m enjoying this page and thought I’d add a comment on my 2004 919. I bought it because it reminded me of my old 1977 CB 750, but it is so much nicer. I’ve added a set of Givi bags and some cheapo running lights, changed the bulbs to LEDs and the headlight to HID, bunged on some black reflective tape on the back and a small tank bag, installed a lowering kit from the UK, and changed the oil to synthetic and I’m done for mods. The bike, like everyone says, is versatile. I’ve ridden it on a 3800 mile round trip, Memphis to Key West, taking the long way round, and it performed beautifully. Some 540 mile days on slab. It’ll also keep up with most crotch rockets, at least up to 110 or so. Lacking a fairing, I view the published top speed as hypothetical. Without a fairing, you won’t stay on very long much over 100. But the power and torque are as described, you will get right up to the ton in well under 10 seconds, and leave the Porsches and Ferraris at the lights, if that is your intent. I tried a small Givi screen for a while but took it off. It didn’t afford much protection from the weather, and I had come to enjoy the airflow. Being out in the wind, 100 mph feels like 150 on a faired bike, and I’ll live a bit longer at 100, assuming you can find a some road where you can do even that. The major problem I found with the 919 is parts availability. Nobody in my city carries any specific parts for it, which means ordering and waiting, whether from a dealer or the internet. I am too cheap to have parts overnighted. My solution was to get another bike, whic is an ST1300. Very different bike, also a great machine. The ST is much more comfortable on long trips especially if it rains, but I didn’t give up the 919 and I still ride it a lot, about 12K miles last year. The responsiveness and lightness of the 919 compares well with the more ponderous ST. On shorter trips, it’s just more fun. I have to admit, I put more miles on the ST because I take longer trips on it, but 80 percent of the time I take a bike out , it is the 919. Lovely bike, nice power, great brakes, big heart. Will run rings around any domestic contraption all day. The other minor issue is that the alternator is a bit lame. It has little capacity for adding extra electrical stuff, like runnning lights. With the newer LED lights now available, this should be less of a problem (I am making the change right now). But if you add, say, a pair of 55W running lights, you pretty much max out the alternator capacity, and the alternator does not function under 3K RPM. I have run the battery down a couple of times. Ultimately, that’s not really much of a problem, the bike can be easily push started, might be a problem if you are packed up for touring and tank bags etc. get in the way. But if Honda see this: Dudes – the small weight saving from the wimpy alternator is not worth it, please beef it up in some upcoming model.

    Some of the v-twim lunkheads I ride with scoff at my 919, but at less than a third the price of a hog, it has the Harley beat into a cocked hat in ever possible category, and it looks so much better. I get the last laugh as they labor along in my dust cloud and have to stop at every H boutique along the highway for urgent repairs. On a 919, you never have to ride on the slime trail left by domestic contraptions, unless for some perverse reason you choose to.

  221. Kevin  June 2nd

    I only recently started looking for a bike again. I havn’t riden for years and I find most sport bikes uncomfortable on my back when you lean over so far. I grew up on Harley’s (my last sportster was biult to run flat out with sport bikes; but became a handfull to ride at low speeds in traffic)but since I started looking again the only machine that has appealed to me is the 919. I havn’t dropped the wallet for it yet but reading the entries here I think my mind is made up.

    thanks for the info in your site and all the people who has added their experiance with the 919.

  222. Greynomad  June 5th

    You asked in your post of 6 February of ways to remove the mark left on your exhaust pipe after you grilled your essential juices. Just been browsing through my favorite local magazine, ‘Motorcycle Trader’ and noticed a review of a compound said to get pipes sparkling and to remove ‘factory residues, finger prints, oils and waxes while preventing heat oxidation, discolouring and rust’. It rejoices in the unusual title ‘Blue-Job’ (with no indication how that name got into their heads). It is made in the U.S.A. A web search on ‘Blue-Job’ reveals the address P.O Box 44317, Tacoma, WA 98444, and the phone number (253)445-1188. It might be worth a try Steve as the price here is $7.95AU, which should put it well within the threshold of financial pain over there in the Land of the Free where it is manufactured.

  223. Jorge  June 9th

    Hi Greynomad.
    Jorge here. Any chance of having your email address? I have an Anzac only idea to bounce off you. If so, I’m

  224. Kiddnitro  June 10th

    The Honda 919.. Humm well I went into the dealer to buy a yamaha vmax but it was sold. They had a 919 so i took it. It looked like a apache attack helocopter in flat black. let me tell you I am sooo glad I dident get the max! It handles like a dream i have done nothing to it in 4 years but change oil and ride the hell out of it. Very reliable! From the injector humm when u first turn the key until u put down the kickstand its pure heaven! I did add a windscreen cause it is noisy on the highway, and I plan to add a luggage rack. I have had it to 140 and there is still plenty of throttle left.. I get 50mpg if i am easy on it. It does everything I ask and more. I dont think they can improve on this one. Really what could you do to this bike? Maybe add 12v power supply for accessories…
    A+++++ Thanks Honda!

  225. johnny  June 17th

    i have been riding for over 3 years now, going from a lil ninja 500 to the 919 was quite a jump…other than having it down my first ride i have no negative comments about the bike (laying it down was my fault haha new tire hirt dirt, around a turn, at 85) but lil damage to bike, and no broken bones lol…but i love the ride, i ride from home to rochester to see my girlfriend often which is a 3 1/2 to 4 hour drive, bike is comfortable and i cant complain with the speed that im addicted to lol

  226. Wulfgang  June 17th

    Hi Folks,
    Have enjoyed reading 919Hornet antics. Don’t really have anything to add as am one of the converted so understand that I’m riding the perfect motorcycle. We’ve been together for 4 years and 30,000miles trouble free (as reliable as the sunrise) Had the pleasure of two weeks riding in the south of Spain(Andalucia,Sierra Nevada etc) at the end of last summer. Which was a dream holiday for me and great place for the Hornet to really shine. I even chased some of the locals along the Ronda road without embarrassing myself. 49kms of blacktop that twists and turns like a snake on a stick. This bit of biking heaven runs from Malaga on the coast inland and up into the mountains to Ronda. Check it out on Google Earth if you want. I can’t make up my mind whether to go back this summer or try the Pyrennes instead. Still I know that I’ll be on the Hornet whatever. My bikes pretty much standard apart from renthals, braided S/steel brake hoses, a Scotoiler and an OE Flyscreen. Though I am considering a fork overhaul with the addition of Racetech compression and rebound gold valves and new springs as the old girls inclined to get a little lively going into corners hard on the brakes. I’ve fitted new headstock bearings and changed the forkoil(genuine Honda) which has improved things but not eliminated that slight skittishness. Anybody care to comment

  227. Steve  June 18th

    Thanks Grey. I’ll have to take a look at that compound. Ironically, they are in my geographical location so I’ll have to give them a call.

    I must admit that the color on the pipes has blossomed into something quite artistic. Varying shades of brown and purple and copper as they bend under. I’ve actually had a comment on it as to how I got the color.. Go figure. Only in the “land of the free” I tell you.

    I’ll let everyone know how it works.

    Thanks again for the tip.

    Safe Riding….

  228. Will  June 19th

    Not sure how much you weigh Wulfgang, but Honda sets the fork oil level for a rider weighing 159 pounds (American).
    I weigh 183 and added 2cc to each fork and it quieted the chatter down quit a bit.

  229. Al  July 2nd

    Can you tell me where I can find saddlebags and such for my 919?


  230. Jesper  July 2nd

    I just have some cheap soft luggage throw over bags that I’ve used for several year. But I know that both Krauser and Givi makes hard cases for the 919.

  231. Jin  July 9th


    Can you tell me where you got your mods?

    i.e. Renthal handlebars, Akrapovic exhausts and a Power Commander

  232. Jesper  July 9th

    Got the bars from renthal online, exhaust and power commander off a local dealer.

    Try the dealer locator on the manufacturers websites for dealers in your area.

  233. Wulfgang  July 10th

    Thanks Will, am going to try some lighter oil as well. I guess the increased oil level effectively reduces the amount of air in the fork leg thus increasing the spring rate by using the air as a spring. I can see this having a positive effect on the rebound damping as the increased spring rate should force it to react faster however I guess the opposite would be true of the compression damping. I’m reasonably certain that my problem is one of over damping in that the wheel is breaking traction under heavy breaking causing little slides. So the front suspension is failing to react fast enough to road surface imperfections(bumps). Essentially the forks can’t extend and compress fast enough for the wheel to maintain contact with the road. Now if this is controlled by oil being pushed through little holes if I use a lower viscosity(thinner)oil, it should flow faster and thus speed up the extension and compression of the forks. Of course I could have this wrong and It maybe that I’m too fat and that the suspension is under full compression and the springs are simply bottoming out. In which case I should fit new slightly stronger springs.

  234. Will  July 10th

    If you’re in the 100 kilo range, you are definetly in need of some stiffer springs, lol. Get some progressive ones so the ride stays plush but stiffens up under hard use.

    The other ideas you have about thinner oil are correct. Tire pressure makes a big difference on this bike, I’ve noticed. Try also changing it one pound at a time up or down from the recommended 36# for the front.

    Or find some 2007 919 front forks that are fully adjustable.

  235. Wulfgang  July 24th

    Hi Will, have the forks in pieces at the moment as am installing some progressive springs. Seems to be a relatively easy operation apart from the rather laborious process of pumping the damper rods and sliders to expel all the old oil. Should have it all back together in the morning so will let you know after a few days if we’ve solved the problem. As regards tyre pressures I’ve tried reducing them on damp days to increase grip which works quite well however it does require increased steering effort and causes a slight loss of feel as a result.

  236. Will  July 25th

    I never change the tire pressure for rain. Where I live in SW Fla. a couple miles from the Gulf of Mexico, it rains every afternoon from June to September. So if you are out at that time you may ride through 3 or 4 different showers on the same trip across town. I tend to just trust the Pilot Powers to do the job, wet or dry but go easy on the front brake in the rain!

  237. Jesper  July 25th

    I’ve ridden wet race tracks with my pilot powers. Those guys stick like tape.

  238. Steve  July 26th

    I agree.. The best tire I’ve ever had. My only complaint is that they look like they have been dipped in grey coconut after a hard ride and a little rough pavement as they pick up everything, including pointy rocks that make a difference in tire pressure. A bit soft.

    I have trusted them in a LOT of rain conditions with surprising results. Can’t recommend them high enough for this bike. Jesper speaks the truth. They are like glue strips on clean pavement.

    And for Grey, I tried the “Blue Job” polish you suggested with little or no result. I finally ended up with a set of gloves and some methyl ethyl ketone. The product might work well on other discolorations or stains but it had little effect on “human matter”. The MEK with a low-abrasion scotch brite pad (white) did the trick nicely (on warm NOT HOT pipes..) as that chemical will usually remove God with enough scrubbing.

    (Please understand that this is NASTY STUFF and will harm you permanently. Read the directions and ALWAYS wear chemical resistant gloves when working with MEK.)

    Thanks again for the advice and ride safe.


  239. Pev  August 2nd

    Hey all – just a suggestion to those looking to mod their bikes. Before spending your $$$ on power commanders, cans etc, look at the comment about suspension above. If you’re not around the 80Kg mark the suspension could well do with being adjusted for your weight and will effectively make you a much faster rider than just adding engine ponies. You may find just setting the rear preload to give the correct static sag is enough but if you have a local race tech with brains then get them to cut new preload spacers for the front forks, change the front and rear spring rates to match your weight and if the bikes done some milage, replace the fork oil. This all helps to give you a much better, safer and more confidence inspiring ride which is (in my opinion!) going to give you much better performance for your cash prior to getting excited about raw performance mods!

    Enjoy your ride…

  240. Todopoderoso  August 5th

    Greetings from Los Angeles everyone! I’ve been drooling after the 919 since it was first released in California (’02 I think). At that time I was a bit of a newbie and conservatively opted for the CB750 (figuring I’d be less likely to kill myself). Now the bike of my dreams (919) has been discontinued… but there’s a brand new candy red ’07 collecting dust at the local dealer (only 5 miles away). My problem is I’m all about the matte black. Part of me feels like a moron for not buying such a great machine just because of the color (I’ve been waiting for black to come back… but now there’s NOTHING coming back). The price keeps dropping as it sits there. Anyone have any idea how much it might cost (in $US – ball park estimate) to paint the tank and plastics? I love my CB750… I mean, the thing is legendary (and also discontinued — I bought the last black model in ’02).

    I’ve never actually ridden the 919 (no test rides here in LA), but instinct and reading all the posts keep pulling me back. (I’ve also been liking the new Triumph S3, but am a bit of a Honda loyalist. Oh what to do!!!

  241. Jorge  August 5th

    Hi Todopoderoso

    Sad to see the Candy red go (I’ve got one myself), but I understand the need to hang with the hombres. My local man charges me about US$200 here (New Zealand) to paint my screen every time I change bikes. Half of that is colour matching. I cant imagine that black matt will present a problem, with no matching required. If you pull off the bits yourself I’d be surprised if it was more than US$300 from a neighbourhood panelshop.

    I cant believe they wont let you try before you buy. A new bike’s a personal thing. My most recent test ride here was the new Fireblade. Marvelous. It’s such a precision tool. But you’re breaking the law before the cam comes in. It’s strictly for tracks in my opinion. How many people buy one without trying? The 919′s the go.

    As for the 919, the most recent test I have here is an English Magazine, dated June 2006, the same age as my current Hornet. In a test of 6 bikes, the Hornet came third, Triumph 4th. This is significant because English journos prefer wild looking bikes like the Triumph. The Hornet is hugely more versatile. If you dont love it I’ll be stunned.

    Start by riding it red and stand tall. You never know who’s going to like the look.

  242. jesse  August 7th

    Hello all!
    I’ve enjoyed reading the extensive remarks on this site regarding the 919 and I’m very excited to say that my new closeout model 07 will be delivered on friday. I’ve been anticipating this day a great deal. I want to say thanks to all of you that have turned me on to the 919. And, I will gladly tell some tales of my first hands on experiences with this bike!!! It’s just too bad that winter will be here in a month or so in good old North Dakota.

  243. Greynomad  August 8th

    Thanks for the feedback. It sounded like a good thing on paper but there’s no substitute for testing things in practice. As a matter of interest what did it cost in Washington State? And thanks for the warning about methyl ethyl ketone. I’ll stick to ethyl alcohol in its various forms!

  244. Wulfgang  August 9th

    Hi Will,
    New springs and oil installed and 500miles later. Things are much better at the front. Bought a Hyperpro kit which came with 5W oil and progressive springs. It seems the people at hyperpro agreed with my diagnosis of overdamping as the 5W replaces the OE spec. 10W oil. The overall effect combined with their springs is excellent. Stopping distances are greatly reduced and I’ve got new found confidence in the corner entry zone. It’s funny how this all came about. A couple of summers ago I had a front end moment. The sort of thing that puts your heart in the back of your throat and leaves the rear end completely airtight. Let’s set the seen, series of 4 corners. Very tight 90deg right to 45deg left to 60deg right short straight to tight 90deg right. Enter turn 1 at 9tenths all OK, through and into turn 2 still on the limit, through and into corner 3 and suddenly the tyre breaks away(I have just enough time to think I’m f#+ked) before grip is resumed. Have you seen a highside it’s the sort of thing that happens to Jorge Lorenzo every other weekend on TV in MotoGP not to me in rural Oxfordshire. However I weigh about twice as much as Gorgeous George and as a consequence I’m much harder to throw. I or my rear end returns to the seat just in time for the Tankslapper to begin(my first). You cannot hang on to the bars while this is happening. At this point I imagine myself to look something like a freefall Parachutist or a fat four legged spider perched on top of an angry motorcycle with it’s front wheel slamming from side to side. And then it stopped, just in time for me to regain control before we finally left the tarmac altogether. It was a raised grass verge and we were running on that bit of earth between grass and tarmac. So I guess that slowed down our projected departure from the road and allowed me time to sort of recompose myself in time for the next bend. I was in shock at this point I knew what had happened but nothing in this world can prepare you for it. It’s not like playstation there’s no reset button. I had to have a little sit down after that, and then you start to think why did that happen. Was it poor riding, was it a diesel spill, are my tyres crap, but how many of us ask is there something wrong with my suspension. I went back to look at the road surface, no diesel only a very slight ridge from the overbanding when the highways people had resurfaced the road. I’m going to leave it there

  245. dave  August 13th

    i love my 919 im 6′ 250 lbs and rides great

  246. Steve  August 14th


    After the “cleaning” the exhaust as previously described, I used the powder to even out the discoloration and it did a nice job. I would recommend it for lighter stuff. It’s great for sticky road tar and uneven darkening of the pipes as they make their first bend or where you have had a small rock ding in the pipes.

    I paid about $17 USD (with shipping)for a little tin of the powder. About 14 gm. Because I live in the state / locale that it was purchased, I also had to pay 2.7 million US dollars in state and local sales tax.

    But *feh* that’s to be expected here.

    Here’s the website if anyone is interested.



  247. Harry  August 14th

    Hi all,

    Thanks for all the great and informative comments.

    A question: the original Bridgestones seem a bit on the slippery side. Any recommendations re super-sticky tyres in both dry and wet conditions?

    Safe rides,

  248. Jesper  August 14th

    As you can read above, Harry, that’s easy. Michelin Pilot Power. They stick like tape.

    Here’s my experience on changing from the bridgestones to the powers.

    Episode 1

    Episode 2

  249. Greynomad  August 14th

    It’s interesting that the price to a Washingtonian is $10.95 US pre-tax. That translates to about $12.50 Au on the exchange-rate tables published today. The price here is $7.95 Au for the same 14gm pack. Setting to one side the effect of your usurious taxes, you are still paying $4.55 Au more than us, or about 36.4%, notwithstanding that the pack we buy has had a trip around the world. You can take some comfort from the knowledge that you appear to be subsidising Aussie polishers!

  250. Greynomad  August 14th

    Erratum. $4.95 was expressed as a percentage of the price you pay. As a percentage of the price we pay ($7.95) it’s 57.23%.

  251. Dave  August 15th

    Grey, I live in Wash State as well and confirm..about $17 for a small can of Blue-Job. It’s our Governor. She smokes very expensive cigars. Nuf said. I haven’t tried it yet, but will in a few days. It’s going to be over 100 deg.F here in Clarkton, Washington (eastern washington– just across the Snake River from Lewiston, Idaho). Probably a good time to clean up the bike as, for sure, to freakin’ hot to ride anywhere. I just took a quick spin over town to run some errands and I’m continually amazed at the Hornet. I have another bike (2000 1100cc sabre) that, I have to admit is a bit more comfortable on the long stuff, but not nearly the fun of the 919. I have Yoshimura’s, a power commander, and a National Cycle Plexifairing III that I wouldn’t consider taking off. Really nice at 100+.

  252. Steve  August 15th

    Hi Dave, It’s good to see that you are enjoying your purchase. I knew that you were hooked from the day you bought it and the long ride home to get used to it..

    I have a question for you and everyone else. I do a lot of commuting with my 919 and haven’t driven my car in weeks. But I do notice that this bike runs rather hot. Today, it was 85 when I got off work and anything under 50mph, the fan is on from work to home. The coolant is brand new and to spec and everything is clear on the radiator.

    Do the rest of you experience anything similar? I know the bike tends to run hot but I can’t do 30 in normal traffic without the fans cooking my shoes.

    And yes… Our Governor kinda sucks.


  253. Greynomad  August 15th

    Hi Dave. Thanks for the note. Just had another look at the Plexifairing screen in the link Will provided on 23/2/08. It would have been welcome here last weekend when I did a ride with my Harley Sportster friend to another friend who lives 110 km away in the country. It was cold by our standards, about 10c, and with the wind-chill factor added it was cool. The hot coffee and ham and eggs at our destination were welcome after an hour on the bike. Are you able to do 100mph on public roads in Washington State? Our limit is 110kph (68.3mph) on some freeways but generally 100 kph (62.1mph)on country roads. Exceeding a limit by 25kph or more leads to a fine and licence loss with no discretion in a court to avoid it. The Germans have the right idea. No limits on the autobahns but licensing which requires a strict understanding of the rules.
    Interesting that the pack of Blue Job is marked in grams, not ounces. The social engineers went to work on us in 1974 when our weights and measures converted to metric. In some ways it has been a bit of a fiasco. Many people still express themselves in the old imperial measures, particularly with regard to things like a person’s height. I still have to convert fuel economy to ‘miles per gallon’ rather than ‘litres per 100km’ to understand it. Don’t let them do it to you. The metric system has much intellectual appeal with its decimal progression but the confusion which follows the change is disproportionate to the advantages, and it endures.
    The Sabre is a nice bike. Good choice for a second mount. How many bikes is enough? I need to add a Hayabusa and a CBR1000RR to my stable, but the Chancellor for the Exchequor has other ideas!

  254. JESSE  August 16th

    I just picked up my 919 from my local honda dealership. WOW!!! I’m amazed at the power this bike puts to the road. And the wind isn’t really bad at all. I’ve only had it up to 85. But it’s smooth sailing up to that speed. I’m an ex-cruiser owner that’s been converted into an a naked 919 lover. Does anyone know where to look for saddlebag supports, or heat shielded bags? I’d appreciate the input.

  255. JESSE  August 17th

    Another question… where can i find a decent used corbin seat with a backrest?

  256. Jorge  August 18th

    Hi Jesse

    I do know that some European companies make hard luggage for the Hornet- Hepco Becker and Givi would be a good place to start. But if you’re man enough to ride a Hornet/919 in the land of the cruiser, maybe you could try what we do downunder.

    Most sports bikes downunder use a “pack-rack” with an upright loop of steel tube that a pocketed bag slides over. It’s branded Ventura. We have bags that double in size for touring. Double the capacity again with a soft bag bungied on. A weather cover pulls out big enough for both. The bike stays narrow enough to manouver through traffic. No good with a pillion though- and not kosher parked next to cruisers. Good luck.

  257. Wulfgang  August 18th

    Hi Jesse,
    In my experience you are unlikely to need either heatshielded bags or supports unless the bags protrude past the exhaust muzzle (for want of a better word. The heatshields on the silencers/mufflers are, being made by Honda capable of both supporting soft luggage and not setting fire to it or even lightly melting it. However I wouldn’t leave any frozen or dairy foodstuffs in the there. My Givi soft bags were fine after 1600miles in two days. As regards tailpacks and their like. Personally I don’t like putting weight high up towards the back of the bike as it tends to bugger up the handling. If you are intending to carry a passenger make sure the bags don’t impede the rear footrest. I seem to remember trying quite a lot of different makes before I found something suitable. Have Fun

  258. Dave  August 19th

    I haven’t had any real heat issues. Even at 90 degrees as long as I’m moving 35-40mph I am barely north of the box at the bottom of the temp guage, but slow it down in stop and go and I run about 2/3 the way to the top and the fan is on and off. You’re probably seeing about the same, but it sounds like maybe you’ve got more stop and go. Greater Lewiston, Idaho Clarkston, Washington is 50,000 so when I complain about traffic I’m really overdoing it. I spent 3 weeks in June commuting from Burien to Tumwater doing some contract work for the Dept of Health and that was an experience. Go like hell then slam on the binders and stop. I didn’t have the bike over there, darn.
    Take care,

  259. Dave  August 19th

    We’ve got a few stretches that you can open it up, but as in your neck of the woods, if they catch you running those speeds they throw the key away after locking you up. It’s not pretty. The fairing has seen 120mph running across Nevada when I brought her back from California last summer. I passed a group of about 6 trucks pulling triples and let it all hang out. I was surprised at how stable she felt and how nice it was to be tucked in behind that fairing. After that trip I decided that the fairing stayed. That’s the Old Geezer in me showing.

  260. Dave  August 19th

    Hi All,
    Have any of you experienced a noise in the 919 when pulling hard from low revs? Kinda like a chain might be a bit loose in the engine. I’m wondering if the overhead cam chain needs adjusting and what all does that involve. Any ideas would be appreciated.

  261. Daniel  August 19th


    I have the same issue, but it’s my actual chain. I checked the tolerance and it sags a good 2 inches (so if I push up at its lowest hangin point it will rise all the way to the chain guide thing). On the back of the swingarm is an adjustment to pull the wheel/tire assembly back to tension the chain but I am at full adjustment (so I need a new chain). You could take a look at that. For me, if I ride the clutch when taking off I can somewhat avoid the lashing, but most takeoffs are causing a lashing feeling with the noise. I’m not riding it again until I can get a replacement. This might be your problem, might not.


  262. Will  August 19th

    I finally put a new chain on mine, replacing the original after 11,000 miles. It’s so quiet and smooth now, like a new bike.

  263. Daniel  August 19th


    How difficult/time consuming was the chain replacement and what chain did you buy?



  264. Will  August 19th

    You have to grind off one of the rivets on the OEM chain or buy an expensive chain breaker tool. I bought an EKG gold x-ring in the original size. and a new front sprocket. the original back sprocket was still ok, must be made out of some really good steel. Not too hard to do at all since the new chain came with a clip link, maybe an hour taking my time.

  265. Wulfgang  August 19th

    Hi Dave,
    Personally I think your right with the noisy camchain as I’ve experienced it to. As to adjustment there’s very little you can do because the motor has an automatic or self adjusting tensioner. Also from what I’ve read this was a common problem with the 98 fireblades from which the 919Hornet motor comes from. However if you think it is particularly noisy have a word with the workshop manager at your local dealers. Better safe than sorry. In my experience noisy camchains are never caused by a problem with the camchain itself but are usually indicative of an imbalance in the running of the engine e.g. blocked injectors,unequal cylinder pressures, ignition timing etc. However with our bikes I believe it’s just that this engine is inclined to make the camchain slap noisily when accelerating hard from low revs.

  266. Dave  August 20th

    Thank you both for your comments on the chain noise. It definitely sounds like it’s coming from the motor. It is such a sweet running motor I’d hate like heck to abuse it so it goes into the shop for a check. Better safe and a few shuckles lighter than sorry and a whole bunch of shuckles lighter.
    Ride safe,

  267. JESSE  August 22nd

    I just wanted to comment on the National Cycle F-16 Sport Shield. I only put it on two days ago, and I think I’m regretting even buying it. It seems as if it throws all the wind directly into my helmet and makes for an uncomfortable ride above 75 mph. I think i’ll opt for going naked in the future. At least with the bike being naked the wind seems to hit my whole torso evenly instead of the shield throwing it all at my face. Just some food for thought if anyone is thinking of purchasing one.

  268. Kiddnitro  August 22nd

    I bought the National Cycle F-16 Sport Shield as well but I love it i am also 5’5 and that may make a diffrence. It does get the wind off my torso and some off my face and helmet. It high speeds u can tuck below it and it works fine. I do wish it was a bit taller and it makes a nice place to tuck a bag for the ride home.. U can ajust it somewhat. I have mine up as far as it can go without making my headlight shine on the front tire LoL!

  269. Will  August 22nd

    I had the same problema as Jesse with my F-16 so I went back to naked on the 919.

    It did work perfectly on my Buell Blast supermoto but you sit really low in the seat on that bike. Maybe you can sell it to someone with a Blast!

  270. JESSE  August 25th

    I adjusted my f16 a hair forward today. And it did actually help out a little bit. I’ll just have to see how well I can see tonight while my light is shining straight down in front of me.

  271. Will  August 26th

    Pull the light up as you push down on the screen, oh wait, screen hits the top of the light housing doesn’t it? time to get out the dremel.

    Don’t drive blind at night!!!

  272. JESSE  August 31st

    yeah…i’m definitely going to have to dremel the screen a bit to get things to where they should be. I don’t have a dremel though. Is there another way to cut the screen without damaging it too much?

  273. Will  August 31st

    Half round file and some patience, so as not to crack it while trying to cut it…

  274. JESSE  August 31st

    I’ll give it a whirl. thanks for the info.

  275. Ogri  September 1st

    Hi all, and thanks for the nice site!

    Like you Harry, I didn’t get on with the Bridgestone OEM tyres. I convinced myself to get some of the new Continental Motion tyres (great value – £120 a set on offer here in the UK from M&P and Busters) after talking to their UK Tech guy who said they were highly suitable for the Hornet 900. He seems to be right! Much better traction, grip, stability, and comfort over the Bridgestones (Conti spent a lot of time on the design of the side wall shock absorption design, apparently, and it is noticeable).

    Oh I don’t work for them by the way, they are just up the road from me and are always a great help when I need some tyre advice (I feed them doughnuts to keep them tame when I visit too).

    They are supposed to be good on mileage as well (done about 600 miles on them so far), and am off to Valencia for the final motoGP on them (PAAAAARTY!), so can hopefully give a good report on them when I get back. Journey will be about 300 miles to Dover, then Calais down to Malaga and beyond, then bimble up the coast to Valencia a few days early for the race to take in the scenery and atmosphere and alchohol . . . .

    On the ‘chain noise’ type noise, this isn’t the normal fuel injector ticking that’s noticeable at low revs is it?

    Mine’s a Silver 2006, mods are Givi A755 colour matched screen (very nice and works well), Motrax Lubetronic 12v chain oiler, heated grips, under seat 12v accessory socket (99p from Amazon for a socket extension I just cut the plug off) to drive the Garmin nuvi 350 Satnav (lives in the tank bag and gives me great TTS voice directions) and charge the mobile phone (always OFF when on the bike), and I hope I remember to get the Fender Extender done before I leave (memory? what’s a memory?). I have gone specially to a bikeplace to get one several times now, get lost in drooling at stuff as soon as I walk in, and end up going out with something else only to kick myself when I get home! I must be getting old, hehe.

    Happy biking on these great bikes all of you, and I hope to remember to give you a report on the tyres when I get home again. :)

  276. Larry  September 2nd

    I have a 2006 919. I’ve done a couple 2000 mile trips with it, and drive it to work and errands as much as the weather permits. I love the bike! My comment to those looking for luggage is: I bought a sport luggaage kit from J.C. Whitney. Tank bag, saddlebags, and trunk. $135.00 U.S. They’ve held up well, and look pretty good. Of course, after my trips they come off so the bike can look as it should. I have 2 brothers carbon fiber exhaust and heat is no concern. By the way, It is partly due to this forum that I bought this bike.

  277. Anthony  September 2nd

    I just picked up a brand new leftover 07′ 919 last Thursday. So far I love the bike. It is everything I have been looking for. Thanks to everyone for their posts on this forum. It help me learn a lot about a bike you do not see to much information on.

    Question. Has anyone put frame sliders on thier 919/Hornet? If so, what make? And where on the bike did they bolt on. I have seen images around the web with frame sliders in different places.

  278. Jesper  September 3rd

    I have Rizoma frame sliders on mine. They replace the top front engine bolts.

  279. wulfgang  September 3rd

    Hi Anthony, Frame sliders, crash bungs Britain and the US, Two peoples divided by a common language. The genuine Honda ones have always looked like a quality product and LOS look good as well. I like the fact that both the above mount on the frame/chassis rather than the engine. As in the event of the unfortunate should the frame sliders get wiped off bent ect. the frame can be straightened with the aid of the OxyAcetylene and a big hammer and then repainted. The same is not true of the fragile expensive aluminum engine cases. I speak from a position of very expensive experience from having to buy a new set of cases associated gaskets and then having to rebuild the old motor into the new cases. Off the road for a month and a £1000 lighter in the wallet, that was in 1984 and I did the work myself. I now avoid anything that claims to offer crash protection and bolts to fragile bits of engine. Happy hunting

  280. Jorge  September 17th

    Tip # 123. Wait until your fuel tank is empty before giving it a good clean.

    I have now put my bike down ever so gently onto the left hand side. The brim full tank may have been the difference from catching it in time or resigning it to a graceful descent onto my concrete driveway.

    The actual mistake was not taking due care to inspect the side stand when moving the bike forward, then leaning the bike onto the now partially retracted side stand. C’est la vie.

  281. Steve  September 17th

    Jorge, I extend my apologies and sympathy as I know what it’s like.

    My only hope is that no one was hurt or watching. It’s much better that way.. Especially when it comes to the scarring as I know the drill. (See above…)

    Here’s to tip #124 being something simple like tire pressure or similar.

  282. binghi  September 22nd

    Hi Guys

    Just finished reading the discussion and I just wanted to say… keep it up. Its a great resource and great discussion.

    I have loved the hornet from a-far ever since I can remember and am finally happy to say that I have just bought myself a brand new second hand 2006 CB900 Hornet… cant wait to take her for her maiden voyage: Sydney – Melbourne – Sydney – Byron.

    keep it up and safe riding all

  283. Harry  October 11th

    Hi all,

    Done my first 6k on my 2007 919, had a full service done, and she runs like a dream – of course! Here is a (perhaps slightly embarrassing) tip for some less experienced riders.I’ve been wonderning for a while about a kind of ‘pinging’ engine noise in the low revs, and after some months the penny finally dropped: I’d been keeping it in the low-end margins far too much where that type of sound is no more than usual. So I’ve only just discovered the pleasure of making her sing from 4k up. It’s like riding a different – and even more exciting – bike, apart from having to change gears only half as often as I used to! It’s like a second honeymoon (sort of!)

    Binghi, let me know how you go with your Syd-Byron trip. I’m going to take mine south, through Kangaroo Valley, across to Nowra and up on a sunny day, before I start to go on the really long hikes.

    Safe rides,

  284. Grant  October 12th

    Hi there,
    I have a new Hornet, and have just done over 1000Km now, and it’s due for it’s first service.
    One thing I have noticed with this bike (not my first Honda) is that the gear change – when changing up through the gears, has a second click into gear. It’s like it goes into gear, but has a second “notch” click into that gear. Has anyone experienced that ? As it’s a new bike and under warranty, I’m keen to know if this is a particular know fault, and if it’s serious and needs repair under warranty.
    Thanks for any helpful suggestions.

    Oh yeah … this is a very good thread/forum. Lots of good advice and info from many enthusiastic 919 / CB900 owners.
    Grant (New Zealand).

  285. Greynomad  October 22nd

    Hello Grant
    Both my Hornets have had that characteristic, particularly going up through neutral from first to second, which can require an additional snick. When dropping the bike off for service I mention any issues, which the dealer notes on his invoice together with any remedial action taken. That at least puts your foot in the door if a problem persists past the warranty period. As noted by Steve in his post of 18 Oct 07 above this is a robust gearbox, like the rest of the Hornet, and it takes it a while to bed in. Mine is in for its 6000k service even as this is blogged and the baulking on changedown matter has been raised. It is still there although diminishing with the passage of time. Enjoy your bike and take care not to ride off the end of the island.

  286. wulfgang  October 28th

    Been quiet for a while as I wanted to enjoy riding the Bike. Since my last post I’ve changed the spring on the rear shock with a Hyperpro progressive one, well to be accurate PDQ motorcycles did, I merely removed and refitted it to the bike. New boots have been fitted Michelin Pilot Road 2CTs which like the Pilot Powers I had a while back inspire more confidence particularly in the rain. And with luck will yield a few more miles than my previous 8 rear tyres. That may sound a little shocking but we have covered 35,000 miles, so if you do the math it’s not so bad when you consider the amount of city riding I do and my love of pulling away from the lights with the front tyre skimming the Tarmac and the rev counter impersonating a windscreen wiper. Irresponsible? possibly, but fun nonetheless. As to the new rear spring excellent Mr Hyperpro. The combined effect of the front and rear progressive springs is that I now arrive at my destinations in the reversal of the immortal Bond line “Stirred and not Shaken” I was so pleased I gave it an oil change, Fully Synthetic not that manky mineral stuff and an oil filter. One important bit of information. The Bearing that takes all the strain where the shock absorber joins the swinging arm. Grease it regularly and check the seals as it’s a nuisance to replace if, like me you don’t have an industrial hydraulic press in your garage. That I think about wraps it up for now, apart from a small tale of infidelity which I’ll save for later

  287. JESSE  October 29th

    I just did a 170 mile trip while the weather was 25 degrees fahrenheit with 45 mph winds. Holy cow! My hands have never been colder. Everything else was pretty well covered up and didn’t get too chilled. Can anyone recommend any warm or heated gloves for riding my 919 in North Dakota winters?

  288. wulfgang  October 30th

    Hi Jesse,
    I don’t know what’s worse the cold numb insensitive feeling when you’re on the bike or when they warm up again, that can be excruciating. I’ve tried various things. The cheapest being waterproof over mitts Rukka used to make good ones but they’ve become an expensive brand since I last bought any of their products. I’m sure there’ll be some alternative though. Another quite successful solution is wind deflectors or Moto cross plastic handguards as their correctly known. this takes a bit more time to organize as they need to be fairly sturdy rather than the cheap and nasty after market junk. The problem being the effect of the wind at higher speeds bending the deflector and applying either the brake or the clutch…… entertaining. Next handlebar mitts. These things look like a pair big vinyl socks that completely enclose the levers, switches and grips they usually have an orifice for the mirrors. These things work but their pig ugly and you can’t see any of the controls which can be a little disconcerting. Again the cheap ones tend to independently operate the brake and clutch levers. Lastly gloves or more accurately mittens you know the things without individual fingers. Hein Gericke do both full mittens and the ones that turn you into Mr Spock. They also seem to be pretty good quality and reasonably priced. They’re good but they don’t really solve the problem of the thumb which is still out ther all on it’s own “in the wind” in the chill factor. I think heated grips are the next logical step and Honda do their own though not for the 919hornet, however I’m sure a resourceful dealer could adapt an existing kit to fit. Every Bmw or Pan european rider I talk to say they’re excellent.

  289. Steve  October 31st

    After a couple of small modifications and the timely discussion, I thought I would share some results.

    A long time back I wanted to replace the stock bars with something a bit lower. Jesper suggested the Renthal road medium bars and I picked one up. To be honest, they were still a little on the high side for me, so I finally got around to getting a pair of Renthal ultra lows to see how that would make a difference. I have to say that the difference is amazing. I don’t have that “riding on the top of the refrigerator” feeling that I was desperately trying to get rid of. They are in a very comfortable position, swept back to a point where dropping deep into a corner is a more confident feeling and much to my surprise, I am amazed at the lack of vibration from the bars even though there are currently no dampers in the bar ends. All in all, I am very impressed with the difference.

    As for the freezing digits issue and living in a place where it can get downright cold, I found a deal on a couple of sets of electric Hot Grips. I installed them on the new bars using an aviation adhesive tape instead of the suggested epoxy as I would probably take them off for the Summer months. With a pair of cold weather riding gloves, I find that the cold hands and fingers are no longer a problem. It’s a simple wiring solution and can generally be kept out of sight.

    Both modifications were very easy and made a huge difference in handling and general rideability.

    Thanks to everyone for the suggestions.


  290. Doug  November 2nd

    Great site. I visited here nearly two years ago when I was considering which bike to buy. This site, along with some other research, was a big help with my buying decision. I ended up getting a clean, used ’04 919. Coming from a focused 600 sport bike, I really found my dream “all-arounder” in the 919.

    By way of mods I’ve kept the bike wholly stock but I am thinking of buying a cobin seat for some added comfort. I am also thinking of getting some different mirrors as the stock ones stick out a bit for lane splitting (california rider, here). The ones from JC whitney someone posted here a while back look promising!

    Anyway, just thought I would pop in and say thanks to everyone here (especially Jasper) who make this the best running info on the 919 out there.

  291. Doug  November 2nd

    Sorry, I meant to type Jesper, not Jasper. ;> I’m hopped up on cough medicine today, if that is any excuse. ;>

  292. Greynomad  November 2nd

    Went to the Melbourne Motorcycle Expo with my son yesterday morning and walked around for a couple of hours in drooling mode. There are some beautiful machines coming out of Japan and Europe now. Salivated over an MV Agusta F4 312, built like a Swiss watch. Even Triumph seem to have got their act together. Their four cylinder engine looks and sounds good. Honda had the biggest range with the trusty Hornet represented in 600 and 900 forms. An official said we will see the CB1000R in about three weeks. The price will be around $16900 AU, but exchange rates could have an adverse impact as our Reserve Bank, which sets interest rates, is about to announce another drop which will devalue the $ AU. The current price for a new Hornet 900 is $9990 AU before on-road costs. A new 2008 CBR1000RR is $17990 AU, and a new runout 2007 CBR1000RR is $13990. They might find the CB1000R hard to move at that price.
    AHHH so many bikes, so little time!

  293. Jesper  November 3rd

    @Doug. No problem, I’m used to it. :-)

    Glad you like the site, thank you for commenting. That’s what keep me going.

  294. Greynomad  November 3rd

    It was a Triumph Sprint ST- 3 cylinders, not 4.
    At my age a 25% error rate is normal.

  295. wulfgang  November 5th

    Infidelity? Well as you all probably know the CB1000R has arrived and I like many others was tempted by the sexy Italian styling, the later more powerful fireblade engine, the inverted or upside down forks and the rather lovely single sided swing arm. So I trotted down to my local dealer where I discovered they had a demonstrator. After talking to the salesmen for a while he mentioned the words test ride. I, trying not to look to eager, said yes straight away. I returned the following day with the appropriate bits of paper and was promptly given the keys and politely asked what time I would be back so they’d know when to start worrying, send out a search party, call the police, ring the local trauma unit etc. Now this bike comes with two types of brakes, either the traditional arrangement or Linked with ABS. I had the linked one which worked fine and didn’t intrude on my riding experience at all. The riding position is a little different in that you are a little higher and a little further forward. The seats more comfortable where the bars are not(Mr Renthal will be pleased) The mirrors are useless in that they only reflect the hedge, the central reservation and your forearms but not what is or might be following you. The Engine is without doubt more powerful but without loosing any of the politeness of the 919Hornet, it just feels stronger. This brings to light another problem the complete absence of wind protection either on the bike or in the current accessory catalog. Anything over 85mph was strenuous exercise and not a lot of fun. The suspension/handling was good but not as plush as my Hornet with the progressive springs (and that only cost me £300 and a bit of time) The new dashboard, instrument panel, clocks, whatever you want to call it is one of those funky LCD affairs and surprisingly is actually pretty good, lots of information and easy to read. My last observation concerns the fuel tank and it’s lack of capacity 16 litres is not enough. With spirited riding you could be empty before a 100 miles. So what’s the conclusion? Well, it’s a pretty good bike with some annoying shortfalls and at £7000 is a lot of money when the Yamaha Fazer S is £1000 pounds less and is probably a better bike. Personally I will not be buying either as I’m not convinced any of them do anything significantly better than the 919Hornet to justify spending that sort of cash. I think if I was to buy a another bike at the moment it would be something like a VN1500 with open pipes so I could scare pedestrians rather than approach them in stealth mode which I seem to do with the Hornet. I have fitted one of those Fiamm super loud Italian horns which even seems to get the attention of the local bus drivers.
    I think that about wraps it up for now so I better go and adjust the chain and give the old girl a wash as she’s beginning to look a bit neglected.

  296. Mountain Boy  November 6th

    25% error rate is phenomenal for me at 50. I usually hover much closer to 50/50 on details even when it comes to my bikes.
    I just returned from Italy where I drove a BMW R 1200 GS Adventure bike. I think it was nice mix of touring and adventure for me. Of course I sold if before I came back to the states.
    Nice bike….. we had some good times…

  297. Greynomad  November 9th

    Thanks Mountain Boy, I feel better already. Have only ridden a BMW R series once and found the torque reaction from the flywheel a bit unusual. They are nicely made like all BM products and seem to hold their value, but BMW never seem to get the styling right. Some of their models look as if they were designed by committees, each with their own discreet area of responsibility, and nobody co-ordinating the whole. I would take some convincing that the price difference compared with the big 4 Nipponese makers is justified, either in the case of BMW or the Italian makers, although the Italians know how something should look.
    One of the more interesting bikes at the expo was the new Goldwing complete with airbags! It weighs 363 kg (798 lb). The maximum weight recommended for one person to lift under our occupational health standards is 55 kg (121 lb). If you dropped a Goldwing it would seem to be almost impossible to get it up without help. Perhaps they should have put the airbags on each side to push it up in the event of a capsize!
    Thanks for the interesting resume on the CB1000R Wulfgang. We have not seen it yet, but it is expected here this month.

  298. Jorge  November 9th

    Manufacturers seem to have lost interest in the whole category of bike which the 919/CB900 occupies. It’s a minimalist fun summer bike which you can bolt a screen on to for winter touring- and I do. Any “boring” styling reviews are subjective garbage, and most reviewers have the highest praise for the Hornet’s comfort handling and performance.

    I am now up to the 24000km service at which I would normally get a new one. Features I would like are-
    1. A current 1000cc engine block.
    2. Factory heated grips (as on the BMW F650GS)
    3. Gear shift indicator (as on Suzuki GSX650F)
    4. The competitive price that keeps me buying Hornets.

    I confidently expected the Japanese “kaizen” constant improvement philosophy to be used in making this new Hornet for me. Just an evolutionary update. However, their market research can’t have struck many like me. So far I’ve tried the new Hornet 600, 1250 Bandit, ZZ14, ST1200, BMW R1200R, R1200GS, F650GS, and new ‘blade. I will shortly try the CB1000R because my dealer has offered. These are all great bikes in their way, but tick different boxes to the ones I want.

    So you might as well leave the blog going Jesper, in 2010 I will be reporting on “How it’s like riding a 50000km 4 year old Hornet”

  299. les  November 14th

    Have had my Red 2002 919 for 3 months can’t say enough good things about it. After a 20 years of not being on a bike this one fits like a glove

  300. Adriaan  December 2nd

    he rear is coming up for replacement and I am considering a few:

    Michelin Pilot Power

    Michelin Pilot Power 2CT

    Michelin Pilot Power Road 2

    Continental Attack (pretty keen to try these)

    The New Bridgestone BT016

    I commute 90% of the time
    I go for weekend blasts in the twisties
    Auckland is VERY wet!!!

    Went into another bike shop today that also fits Michelin. Mechanic actually recommended against them! Also confirmed the story that I have been told, of them changing characteristics after about 50% of wear. Reckons Michelin is over rated.

    He recommended the (slightly cheaper) Metzelers: Z6 or M3.
    After I said I’d be happy with 8 to 10K km’s (6000miles) he said go for the M3, more stickier, although he reckons the Z6 is excellent in the wet and has sold truckloads…

    I get the idea that Metzeler is an under rated (and slightly cheaper than Michelin) tire..
    Any suggestions?

  301. Will  December 2nd

  302. Adriaan  December 2nd

    Thanks Will, I did have a look at them – aren’t they more suitable for the super-sports bike (Blades, etc?) Does seem like a good tire, but not very optimistic about it giving reasonable miles. Anyone got any experience with them?

  303. Arctic_Moose  December 3rd

    hello everyone, I bought a new left over cb919 this summer of 2008. what an all around ride i love it. When I bought the bike I realized there were threr things I wanted to change and they were to add a windshield, center kick stand, and i want to change the exhaust as it is way to quiet. I went with a oem center stand but when I went to order a windshield they had been discontinued so I went with a GIVI it was an easy add on. It places the wind right about my face level when sitting upright but I can duck out of the wind when I want to go faster. The only thing im not sure of is what to replace the stock pipes with, as I want a little louder system because I cant hear the exhaust after 3rd gear. I have seen what is on your bike what are they like and have you seen or heard of the other brands. My bike is red I dont know if the black carbon fiber would go with my bike. I love my cb919 an it was a steal less than 10 grand on the road taxes in, awsome.

  304. wulfgang  December 4th

    Hi Adriaan, most modern bike tyres are good. Michelin and Metzeler are my personal favorites I’d recommend the M3 for it’s quick warm up time, comfort and it’s ability to tell you where the limits of adhesion are without doing anything really scary. The Pilot powers will grip and grip and grip until they go and then it’s big slide though you will have to be a long way over before that happens. I’m currently riding with the Pilot Road 2CT’s which have only covered about 1700miles so far so my view is incomplete. However the wet grip is good and they make me feel more confident in the rain than any other tyre. And in theory because of the two compound construction they are supposed to last longer. I’ve tried the Bridgestone BT20′s aswell which are another two compound tyre. They lasted well and gripped but they were like riding around on a pair of concrete hoops, horribly uncomfortable. As to the comments about the michelin’s changing their characteristics half way through their life. I disagree, all tyres change how they ride when the tread gets thin but not as early as has been suggested . Hope that’s a little help. Bye

  305. Greynomad  December 6th

    The Hornet has horse power aplenty, but the possibility suggests itself that it also has supernatural powers. Last Thursday was a perfect morning for a ride. I decided to go to Healesville, a tranquil mountain village at the start of the Black Spur, about an hour from home. Saddled up and set off. About 10 km from Healesville the fuel warning light came on. Rode on to the Caltex in the town, pulled up at a pump and realised I had forgotten my wallet. Almost out of fuel and no money! Wheeled the bike to one side, rang my son and asked him to mount the Suzuki and bring it. An hour to wait. Sat there with my back to a wall. A nice, friendly young man came over and admired the bike. He had recently returned from 3 years working in Canada and had bought a Hornet which was being serviced nearby. We talked bikes. I suggested that this site is a good source. He said he is Binghi, had blogged here and was aware of my blogs!! There are 21 million people in Oz. Is there a statistician out there who can calculate the probabilities of this encounter happening?

  306. Jorge  December 7th

    Well, Greynomad, I spent an enchanting hour in Healesville in October, en route to the de Bortoli vineyard at Dixon’s Creek. You have some great roads in Victoria. Sadly my Hornet wasn’t with me.

    It has had it’s 24k service and is now shod with Michelins. I didn’t get into the tyre discussion because I only ride on one set at a time. But can I put in a plug for Avons for what it’s worth. I put on a set for a 5000k South Island tour and found them superbly grippy and comfortable. They were touring tyres but I dont keep track of model numbers.

  307. Daniel  December 9th

    Hi everybody, I’m new owner of a brand new 07 919, but still can’t have a contact with her, is in my brother garage waiting for me {one more week}, I love the shape and all i reed for the bike with my bro we decide is the bike, so he get one and 2 days later i said go and get one for me (i’m truck driver, so i’m not in home to much),so after my ride i’ll post my experince.

  308. Chris  December 11th

    Wow, this is way cool. I just bought a GSX650f but am thinking that a 919 will be my next bike.

    Not instead of mind you, in addition to :-)

    Anyway, you inspired me to write a bit myself.

    Thanks a ton.

  309. Larry  December 13th

    In response to Arctic Moose, I have a 2006 919 and I have two brothers carbon fiber exhaust on it. Mine is also red and I think the black looks great and I love the sound. Its my daily commuter, although not now cuz I live in Michigan, and I’ve done three 2,000 trips with it. Great bike. This winter, I’m gonna change the sprocket for lower rpm’s in hopes of calming it down for long distance.

  310. Dave  December 14th

    Hi All,
    Has anyone extended the stock handlebars back and inch or ??? I purchased (way back when) a bar extender that moves the bar back an inch and up an inch. The overall effect is said to gain about 1.5″ back from stock. Has anyone done this and, if so, what do you think? How did you handle cables, etc. as the stock ones won’t make it or I’de try it myself right now. I am thinking that long distance riding might be a wee bit more comfortable, but would like your feedback before I go to the trouble.

    Ride safe,

  311. arctic_moose  December 19th

    thanks larry for the info i will check them out. sadly i had to take my battery out of my bike as the temperatures have fallen below freezing :( are there any other suggestions for pipes? come on april and spring weather

  312. Max  December 21st

    Hi All,

    I’m going to add an Akrapovic exhaust system to my CB900F. So far they are the best sounding system I’ve come across. I’ve also installed K&N air filters which work very nicely.

    I tried a Ducati Monster S4R yesterday, just for the heck of it. It felt like riding a Hornet with a flat front tyre! It’s just another reminder that there’s no point in thinking about changing bikes.

    Now that summer is finally come around in all seriousness: for all those who live in or around Sydney, OZ, it would be great to organise a Hornet ride day, if anyone’s interested.

    My commiserations to northern hemisphere riders. Take heart, spring’s (sort of) just around the corner.


  313. Dave  December 22nd

    OK, you “Down Under Blokes”. Enjoy your Summer. I sincerely mean that. Just to give creedence to Max’s comment it is 20 degrees with 4 inches of snow on the ground in Lewiston, Idaho/Clarkston, Washington (across the mighty Snake River from one another). Spokane, Washington (100 miles to the North) has two and a half feet of snow. Temps have ranged from high twenties to about 5 above (that’s Fahrenheit, Mate). Our Hornets are sitting inside warm garages hooked to their battery tenders and rippling their muscles in anticipation of Spring (about 3 months away). Oh, well. It’s good to hear from you folks south of the equator and that it is your time of the year to swell the air with the whine of D.O.H.C. engines and expose all those ear to ear grins. Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, and great joy to ALL of You for the New Year.

    From another delighted Hornet Rider.

    My best to you,


  314. Jesper  January 3rd

    Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you to Dave.

  315. Dave  January 3rd

    Hey, Jesper,
    The same for you and all the rest of the gang. 2008 was an incredible year here in the States and we’re all hoping that 2009 starts turning things around with the economy, the war in Iraq, and such. I am hopeful that our new President has lots of lucky charms, and that most of them work really well.

  316. Greynomad  January 5th

    Hello Dave, and thanks for your Yuletide message. I tried a couple of times to reply but the messages must have been drawn into the vortex of the Large Hadron Collider. Best of luck for a happy, prosperous and funny 2009 to you and all motorcycling brethren and sistren. You could do your bit to stimulate the economy. You have a social duty to put yourself at the vanguard of a consumer-led recovery by going out and buying a couple of additional bikes. A nice 2008 CBR1000RR in red and black, and perhaps a new Hornet to be put up on blocks for the future while you can still get one. If She complains just say you are complying with the advice of your Australian financial adviser.
    Have a great year and ride safely.

  317. Jesper  January 6th

    Greynomad was kind to let me know that his comment didn’t appear. Somehow the spam filter ate it and was holding on to it pretty tight.

    Messed about with wordpress for a while and finally got it to approve the comment. I keep an eye on spam regularly. But if anyone else of you guys comments doesn’t appear. I’d appreciate if you let me know as well. Thanks.

  318. Larry  January 17th

    Does anyone know where I might find a service manual for my 2006 Honda 919?

  319. Anthony Jr.  January 17th

    Wow. After successfully avoiding motorcycle purchase (and lust) for some eighteen months, a series of circumstances has me longing for Honda’s big CB, and wouldn’t you know the 919 Comment List That Would Not Die is still…well…alive.

    So. I am still the Marketing Director at Southern Honda in Chattanooga, Tennessee. We’re still the largest Honda motorcycle dealer in the USA. We still have a batch of CB900s at what I believe may be a price too low for me to resist — around $6,500USD, for the curious.

    My urge to own this bike has reached such a level that I actually pitched the idea to my wife, complete with promises to eliminate frivolous spending, stay alive, etc. The outlook for actual purchase is extremely possible.

    My question(s) then:

    -the 919 never caught on in the USA, and Honda discontinued it here after the 2007 model year. Any Yanks on here have a good sense of the accessory market for the bike post-2007?

    -I will absolutely install a Renthal handlebar on the 919 should I buy it. According to the Renthal website, they have no product to fit the bike, but you know, it’s a freakin’ handlebar. Any advice on this?

    -Due to aforementioned promises/concessions to wife, the 919 will be a daytime/urban/commuter machine, and absolutely not a freeway/barnstorming/hooligan machine. I plan to honor this promise to the best of my genetic ability, so in that spirit, are there any “no-brainer” mods or accessories to make the bike better for my daily commute (which is 5 miles each way, all backroads and sidestreets, up and down about a 200m high ridge).

    Thanks in advance to any who respond.

  320. Greynomad  January 18th

    G’day Anthony Jnr.
    The centre stand is a useful accessory for wheel and chain maintenance, and a screen of some kind makes riding more pleasant in cold weather, Mine has the small Honda fly screen, but while it deflects some wind it does not offer much protection at high speed on a cold day. The Plexifaring screen discussed above (about the aesthetics of which views differ) looks like a practical solution to the wind-chill problem, shielding body and hands. Frame sliders are useful in protecting vulnerable components, subject to the caveat that they should not put the engine block casting at risk. You will need a bag to carry papers, and the type recommended by Jorge is commonly seen here.
    The CB1000R has now arrived in Oz. Pricing will limit sales. The standard model is $18,190AU and the ABS is $19,190 before on-road costs. A 2008 Fireblade is $17,990, and a runout 2007 Fireblade (the donor of the CB1000R engine) $13,990. A new runout Hornet 900 is $9,990, and negotiable. No contest!! Anthony Jnr., perhaps you should tell Honda not to discard the Hornet moulds just yet as a new religion is forming around this bike!
    Has anyone tried synthetic oil in their Hornet? I have used only Honda oil in mine, but run a car on Mobil Synth S and it runs quieter, smoother and more economically than on mineral oil.

  321. 129CBRider  January 19th

    I’ve been using Chevron Devol 15w40 for a couple of oil changes and find it work fine. Smooth, quiet and clutchless up-shifts are smooth also.

    For around town luggage, the Cortech mini tank bag and expandable sport tail bag are perfect and indestructible and the zippers always work effortlessly. You can get a laptop briefcase or a twelve pack in the tailbag but not both. They both come with rain covers which are necessary in even a slight shower so pull over and put them on first time it looks threatening.

  322. Ben  February 6th

    Thanks for all the great info
    I love the 900 hornet but am, for several months still, restricted to smaller bikes.

    Are they really discontinuing the 900 in oz? the wiki site says they are replacing it with the CB1000R (to expensive and ugly for me). How much longer will they be selling new 900 hornets do you reckon?

    sorry if already answered but there is a lot of writing in the comments

  323. Jigger  February 11th

    Just found your site, very informative and just read it from start to confirmed my suspision that the 919 is the perfect ride for me, as im just getting back into road riding at 50, although been riding off road for most my life on KTM 450′s and keep up with that still.
    I just bought a 2003 Hornet which has 3500miles on her, very clean and can’t wait till the 4 feet of snow melts here in New Hampshire (USA)to ride. After looking at the Triumph street triple and the cost, almost $8000 US, the used 919 at $3800 looked sweet and having been a Honda owner in the past, the decision was easy. Thanks All for the great info!!

  324. Greynomad  February 12th

    G’day Ben
    Honda Australia’s customer relations people at – have advised that the Hornet 900 is no longer being produced, and has been superseded by the CB1000R. There are at least 10 dealers in Victoria who still have the Hornet 900 in stock. They might be prepared to hold one for you if you give them a deposit. Contact Honda at the address above for a dealer in your state. Good luck.
    Congratulations Jigger. You will not regret your purchase. The temperature here was 47.5c (117.5 fahrenheit) on Saturday with wild winds–fires everywhere, including our daughter’s place at Taggerty. Farm burnt from end to end but house and 4 horses unharmed by some miracle. Wouldn’t mind a good dump of snow!

  325. Jigger  February 14th

    your wild fires were on world news, they seemed especially devistating in how fast they traveled. Good to hear your home and animals made it. Wish I could send you some of this snow! not sure if i’d trade it for 117 degree weather though.
    All I can do this time of year is wrench on the bikes and if cold enough we stud up our off road rides and hit the trails….nothing like passing a snow machine out on the trails.
    On another note I just saw a brand new 2006 919 at my local Honda shop for $6990. Maybe they didn’t sell that well here in the states.
    Anyone add a belly pan to their 919? i wonder if it would keep the pipes from cooling?

  326. Greynomad  February 14th

    Hello Jigger
    Anthony Jr has said that the 919 did not sell well in the US. It was not a volume seller anywhere, although I saw quite a few on a trip to NZ last week. It is in a very competitive area of the market, and started here at a bit over $14k Au. It is now available for $9990 au, which is equal to 6559 pictures of George Washington. Keen dealers will do a bit better than that. It is a brilliant bike, with a nice balance of power and performance, and complete reliability. That it did not do so well simply establishes us as the most discerning section of the market. At my advanced age (71) I may not buy another bike, although my Hornet has now done 8000 km. My son says ‘Get a Monster’ but what will it do that the Hornet will not? And services cost $700 Au! After 54 years of biking this will probably be my last, and what a nice way to bow out, but not quite yet!

  327. Will Wiegman  February 14th

    Don’t be so sure, my uncle is 89 and still plows and discs with his tractor.

    You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding!

    One of the guys on the last dual-sport ride I went on in the Georgia USA mountains was 92 years young and rode the whole 250 miles off-road on his brand new Honda XR230L with kick-start!

  328. Jigger  February 14th

    Graynomad & Will, Good to hear about guys not worrying about the age thing and just riding. Been riding off road with a good friend in Colorado every few years and he’s 63, goes like hell for over 1100 miles in 6 days. Inspiration is a beautiful thing!

    Hold on and enjoy the ride, Jig

  329. jeff919  February 15th

    I have an 06 919 and love it. First street bike after 15 yrs of dirt riding.
    I am 51 yrs old and live in Ontario, Canada.I have a small GIVI windscreen and Yoshimura slip ons.
    I would like to find a small luggage rack so I can carry a passenger occasionally. Right now I use a tailbag.
    Does anyone know where I can buy one ?

  330. Graham  February 21st

    Hi to all, I have just purchased the Hornet here in Melbourne (new) ready to pick up next weekend. It sounds like it was more luck than judgement pricing was outrageous at jus AUD 9990.00. Appreciate its in run out but lest just be honest its a Honda…

    This is by far the biggest machine that I have ridden and will be taking it very steady for a while however carrying a heafty 108 kilos are ther any mods that I need to make from the get go, to ensure that I get the best out of what appears to be a fantastic machine (color orange) if that doesnt turns heads..

    Great site will keep on coming back.

  331. Jorge  February 21st

    Hi Graham
    You’ve done well. It can be ridden gently at first, and whenever necessary. Predictability and control are both superb. Clutch and throttle response is linear. Brakes as well. Sometimes it’s clunky changing from first to second, and avoid going slowly in too low a gear. Take a local “ride safe” course then build confidence by riding a lot.
    There are a few things that you can do on light bikes that you wont get away with, mostly when riding slowly. Stopping halfway around a tight radius turn will see you drop it, so put on some frame sliders. And check to make sure that side stand is down with even the slightest shift.
    It sounds like you’ve bought my Hornet if you got it from Ringwood- I nearly bought one there myself, just to ride when over there. Sadly non-Australians aren’t allowed to own one in Oz and it got too messy.

  332. Jigger  February 22nd

    Jorge, that’s some great info for us new guys who haven’t been riding for a bit. I am doing the safety class also.

    Jeff919, I was on the Givi site and they appear to have some options for a rack. They call it the Monorack i believe.

  333. jeff919  February 23rd

    Thank’s Jigger, I’ll have a look.
    Can’t wait to get out on the bike again. It’s been a long winter.
    A snow warning has been just issued here. Another 15-20 cm ( 6-8 in )on the way tonight.

  334. vshake  February 24th

    Hi all,

    Just did the flapper mod and what a nice surprise!


  335. Greynomad  February 24th

    On 17 January you asked about a manual for the Hornet.

    You may be assisted by visiting :-
    which sets out the manual for the 2002/3 model.

    It is substantially relevant to later models, with a couple of exceptions like adjustable suspension.

    Sorry about the delay. Been cruising.

  336. Arctic_Moose  March 3rd

    Anthony jr,

    First of all you would be hard pressed to buy another 900 with the peformance and all around driveabilty for $6500us
    I bought mine on sale here in canada for $8000cn an 06 left over last year awsome deal.
    As for the renthral bars they dont fit perfectly but I have seen them installed I dont know about the mods. required.


    About your question about synthetic. If I were you I asked my local dealer first. This is because I have owned other Hondas and their manuals recomended not to use it because the clutches are oil bathed and sythetic is so slippery that it caused the clutches to slip. Iim not sure if is the same for the cb 919 but I will be sticking with what it came with on this one.

    The only mods so far I have done is to add the center kickstand and a Givi windshield,as the OEM has been discontinued. The windshield is nice it brings the wind up onto your shoulders more than your body. I am considering a powercomander and new exhaust (maybe Sato’s), last but not least a set of sliders I can put my ankles up on for longer rides.
    Arctic_Moose NB canada,
    P.S. I love my 919

  337. Arctic_Moose  March 3rd


    Are we able to upload pics?

  338. Will Wiegman  March 3rd

    No pics here I think but you can leave links.

    I changed bars and the only problem is making sure cables, etc are long enough, Honda didn’t leave any slack in them.

    I did have a clutch slippage problem on my XR400R with synthetic, but the 919 clutch springs seem to be stout enough to squeeze it out and no slippage has ocurred on mine with the synthetic.
    It came in handy on the xr for doing holeshots off road in second gear. :)

  339. jeff919  March 4th

    When I did my first oil change, I used Motul semi. I noticed right away better shifting. No clutch slippage. I recommend it.

  340. Steve  March 4th

    I used Mobil 1 synthetic in my second oil change and experienced the clutch slippage that others posted about. Mostly hard starts, and second gear.

    Since then, I have switched back to dead dinosuars in a plastic bottle and have been quite pleased.

    I think that if the engineers at Honda had synthetic at their disposal during engineering, they would have probably made the clutch system a bit more aggressive, but on the other hand, it probably wouldn’t be as fun as it is now as it would probably be more sensitive and prone to failure and replacement.

    Looking in the manual and seeing “Just Plain Oil”, I still have to smile at the simplicity of the machine and the wet clutch system.

    I think it’s also why I still see old CB900′s riding around my town occasionally.


  341. wulfgang  March 4th

    I wish to disagree with this clutch slipping problem when using synthetic oils. I have used a variety of synthetic and semi synthetic lubricants and have never experienced any slippage. I’m still using the original clutch and springs at 37,000miles. I have had to replace the cable twice. When you start to get wrist ache after an hour or so it’s the clutch cable expiring. Of course this only this only effects the left wrist as to the other side it’s probably best not to comment. The synthetics I’ve used were Shell and Silkolene with the latter making the most difference. The engine felt smoother and more responsive, though there was a little more mechanical clatter from cold probably because it doesn’t need to be warmed up before reaching the correct viscosity. Hope your all enjoying riding your Hornets/919s, England is at last beginning to brighten up so I’m looking forward to getting out on the bike a bit more. Just have to complete the service I’ve started. Brake pads and fluid both ends, Calipers off and properly cleaned, New rear disc, New cush drive rubbers, Steering headrace bearings(taper rollers this time) and the aforementioned clutch cable. The thing that concerns me most about this is the length of time modern brake fluid takes to degrade. Two years and 12,000 miles to a really spongy lever, and that from a respected performance brand road spec dot4 is not really good enough, and a little dangerous.

  342. Arctic_Moose  March 4th

    So there you go greynomad a few different ideas but I’d still ask my manufacture. I know synthetic is the best lubricant but I believe its best for certain engine designs.

  343. Greynomad  March 6th

    Thank you Gentlemen
    I will maintain the status quo until the next service and raise it with the dealer at that time. As it is still under warranty snd the baulking issue has been mentioned previously I will let Honda do the worrying. Chain tension is correct so that is not a factor. Thanks again for your thoughts.

  344. Jigger  March 11th

    I was told once that Automotive synthetic was slipperier than MC synthetic which is formulated to perform as both engine oil and transmission fuild and those clutch plates requires some friction. I’ve had limited use with Honda’s synthetic in my new 919, but it works better than most in my KTM450 and that clutch gets a good workout.
    Wulfgang, how much trouble is it to replace those Cush drive rubbers? Also if replacing the drive chain, is it acceptable to use one that is linked? Many Thanks!

  345. wulfgang  March 12th

    Hi Jigger, I think this synthetic oil debate is going to rumble on and on, but your right about the difference between car and M/C oils in that the latter has to withstand much greater pressures because of it’s use in the transmission/gearbox. As to whether it’s more slippery, I think that the viscosity remains more stable more of the time enabling it to cope with extremes of temperature better than mineral oils, probably lasts longer as well. I believe VW have now 20,000 mile oil change intervals providing you use their approved specification synthetic oil. I can’t quite get my head round that as 5,000 still seems like a long way.
    Concerning the cush drive rubbers, providing you have a paddock or centre stand, the correct tools and have removed wheels before, this is an easy job. The sprocket/chainwheel carrier justs pulls out of it’s location in the hub or more accurately falls out when the rubbers have reached their use by date. Drive chains I wouldn’t recommend the use of a spring clip type link with anything producing more than 40 horse power or an X or O ring type chain. A soft link will work fine but you need the appropriate link splitter/press with the mandrels and plates to suit a 530 chain. Be careful when pushing the sideplate on and mushrooming the ends of the soft rivets, as it’s all to easy to push the sideplate a little to far and end up with a tight spot. Which means you have to repeat the whole operation when you’ve managed to get down to the shop and get home with another link. Two more things, if the chain needs replacing I expect the sprockets/chainwheels should be replaced as well. Finally Scotoilers I don’t know if their available on the other side of the pond but they are the best accessory I’ve ever fitted. Chains last twice as long and it just makes the drive feel nice and smooth all the time.

  346. Jigger  March 12th

    Wulfgang thanks, i will look into the Scotoiler, I like that idea. I agree, you always change sprockets with a new chain. I realize there are circumstances that vary the life expectance of a drive chain and there are things to look for like; stretching, loose rollers etc. but what can you expect to get for miles out of a chain on the 919? Sorry for so many questions, I really appreciate all the useful information. jig

  347. wulfgang  March 12th

    Hi Jigger, My original drive chain which I inherited with the bike from the first owner lasted just over 10,000. The second one, a DID X-ring which I lubed religiously survived nearly 14,000. Currently we have an EK gold X-ring which has done 13,000 miles with the Scotoiler and has yet to need adjustment. I didn’t really want the gold sideplates but according to the dealer that was all they had in stock, now I find it strangely satisfying to clean the chain from time to time and admire all that goldplate. Bling Bling.

  348. Arctic_moose  March 19th

    wulgang what is a spring clip type link, is that the three piece link(master link)?

  349. Larry  March 19th

    I just replaced my chain and rear sprocket on my 2006 919. The sprocket that I put on has 2 less teeth than the original. I’m very happy with the results. The reason I did that was, for one, my bike had a handlebar buzz at about 5,000 rpm that was very annoying to me. Also, at high speeds, my bike was a bit “jumpy” when I hit the throttle to pass. Now the speed rolls on, and the vibration is totally gone. I know that those kind of changes are totally personal, but for me, it dialed the bike right in. In the summers, I do 2-3,000 mile trips, and I’m really looking forward to this summers trip.

  350. wulfgang  March 20th

    Hi Moose, Yes a spring clip type joining link is a a three part design. Sideplate with pins attached, sideplate, u shaped spring clip that slots into grooves in the tips of the pins. A hilarious activity to assemble if you add O-rings or X-rings.

  351. Ken  March 27th

    I got my “Out-of-the-box” Hornet 2 weeks ago and felt at home on the bike from the first second I sat on the seat. The only thing I really miss is a centre stand, but can live without one for a short time – otherwise not a thing to complain about – a real streetfighter if ever there was one !

  352. Arctic_Moose  March 27th

    Aaaaahhh,I can smell it spring is in the air. I’m going to do my first of the season oil change and maybe polish her up a bit. I want my 919 shining on my first ride around town.
    To Ken I hope you invest in that center stand, it doesnt add that much weight and the convienence is very helpful.
    Here’s one for everybody has anyone installed a powercommander on their bike? Does it make much of a change eihter in pulling power or fuel mileage either for or against.Are they worth the money?

  353. Jesper  March 27th

    Arctic Moose. As you can read in the post above (mods paragraph). I have a PowerCommander on mine. It’s great.

  354. NUCYM  March 30th

    I just picked up a new 2007 919 from Champion Honda on Long Island, NY. I love this bike! I had a ’81 Suzuki GS 850G that I was trying to replace with this bike. I am happy to report the Honda is ten times the motorcycle and the Suzuki was excellent. I am just over six feet and 275 lbs and the scary part is the Honda doesn’t even know I’m there. The acceleration is instaneous and the brakes can stop me in a hurry. Handling is phenominal. What a bike. I have been uncontrolably smiling ear to ear since picking it up. I appreciate this blog as it will save me much riding time when looking for parts/accessories.

  355. Steve  March 30th

    Damn.. I still love hearing of the story of a new owner. It immediately makes me go and admire the bike.

    I took it out today on some wet streets and had a great time.

    I also have to rave about the Renthal ultra low bars. I haven’t had a chance to test them on a long ride but for short blasts they make all the difference in the world in the corners.

    Good and safe riding to everyone in the Northern Hemisphere where it appears to be warming up slightly.


  356. Greynomad  April 15th

    In the April/May 2009 edition of Motorcycle Trader there is a short feature by Spannerman, who answers a reader’s question about which bike to buy:-

    “Your letter has reminded me of what a nice bike the Hornet 900 is. It got a lukewarm reception because, I think, people were expecting a junior Fireblade but, it’s a beautiful bike to ride without being in any way intimidating. If you treat it like a smaller bike that’s exactly how it behaves, but it’s still capable of very quick point to point times if that’s what’s required.”
    Spannerman is a well respected motorcycling journalist here and knows his craft. It is interesting that his view of the Hornet is so close to ours.
    Haven’t seen a CB1000R on the road here 5 months after its release!

  357. Bergslaw  April 15th

    Great string –

    Just bought a used 919 about a month back, fitted with Satos, PWCIII, custom air, and Givi luggage. Recently put on the “satoNew2″ map from for the powercommander, which gave a noticable positive difference in shifting (compard to “satonew1″ map). BIG Positive for 919ers – great in turns,lower torque power leaves you with a grin, and ease in riding instills confidence. Negative for 919ers – wind beats you up at 60mph+. Planning on placing a Givi windscreen, which hopefully will difuse this problem for an upcoming road trip.

    Keep this string up – great info.

  358. 919 Matt  April 17th

    Guys, I’m replacing my 02 Honda 919 Tank. The guy selling the tank says it’s a California tank. I know there are smog mods, but does anyone know whether or not there is a functional difference between the tanks on a California bike versus Non California. In the end, I need to know if I’ll be able to mount the California Tank properly or not.

    Great 919 Thread and thanks, Matt.

  359. Bergslaw  April 20th

    Put on that Givi windscreen. Substantially reduced wind pull around my chest, and even up a little on my helmet. Can be a little erratic though. All in all, pretty good.

  360. NUCYM  April 24th

    Been working too much. It’s been cold and rain in upstate NY way too long. Tomorrow through Sunday is suppose to be nothing but sunshine, 70-85 degrees. Can’t wait to take the 919 out. The power is intoxicating. This bike begs to be opened up. Got to find its sweet spot. Good riding to Steve, Graynomad, and the rest. 919 Matt try for an ’02 non-california tank $515.70.

  361. Greynomad  May 2nd

    Hello NUCYM, and thanks for the good wishes.
    Cooking has started in earnest with both my Hornets somewhere between 6 and 7k rpm, corresponding with the development of peak torque, surging adrenalin, and maniacal laughter inside my helmet. Just as well no one else can hear it! You will have great fun finding it NUCYM, but pick your time and place.

    Went for a ride with my son, and a friend and his son last week. We went through Marysville, one of the towns most severely damaged in the recent bushfires. Devastation everywhere. One of the greatest losses was the uniquely mysterious and beautiful sculpture garden of Bruno Torfs set in natural bushland. It was filled with many objects of art born of the Tolkienesque imagination of the artist. Samples of the delicate and inspiring work are available at
    It is worth a look.
    Safe and happy riding brothers.

  362. NUCYM  May 11th

    GN-Unable to try your suggested sweet spot RPMs, too many radar guns were out on my favorite back roads! Sorry to hear about the fires. The artwork is captivating. Hope they are able to recover. Good to hear you got out with your son and friends. That always makes for an enjoyable time. The weather in upstate New York has vasilated between too cold to ride and bearable for short jaunts. Looking forward to summers arrival. Good riding to all.

  363. 919streetfighter  May 11th

    I am interested in your top case. It looks like it replaces the rear handlebar and allows you to easily remove your topcase. I was wondering who makes that case and what mounting bracket did you use. I would like to start touring more with my niner and I am looking for luggage options.

  364. Jesper  May 11th

    The top box is Krauser, and yes it does replace the rear handlebars. They make a rack for side cases that works with this rack as well.

    Very easy to switch. I only have it on when we’re on touring vacation.

  365. Ian Ryan  May 16th

    Great website, have an 07 919 with lotsa add ons. Anyone know if any other Honda model front forks fit the 919??

  366. Greynomad  May 17th

    The motoring media here have carried news that Honda and Harley Davidson are working on electric motorcycles. Having recently installed a 1kw solar array on my roof I tried out a Vectrix electric motor scooter, thinking that my local transport might be made non-polluting. It wasn’t too bad, performing about the same as a 250cc petrol scooter. Does a bit over 100kph (60mph) but only has a range of 65 to 95 km (40 to 60 miles).

    One clever feature is the reverse cycle motor which acts as a brake when twisted backward, converting the energy of motion back into electricity which is returned to the battery. It also acts as a reverse gear when stationary.

    The brushless motor and transmission are located in the rear wheel hub and do not need servicing. The batteries are said to last 10 years. As the Sun delivers to the surface of the Earth in 2.5 hours more energy than mankind uses in a year this is the way of the future, but for now I will be sticking with my Hornet. It’s way more entertaining.

  367. Greynomad  May 23rd

    A neighbour has just bought a used 2007 FXST Softail Standard Harley with 2500km on the clock, and some optional accessories. It’s a nice looking bike and sounds basso profundo with the big V twin and resonating pipes, but he could have bought three new Hornet 900′s and had change of $4,000AU for what he paid for it. Am I missing something?

  368. Steve  May 23rd

    Yes Grey,

    You have common sense, a demonstrated ability to recognize excellence in engineering and machinery, and most of all, a sense of individuality and respect for value in performance.

    That’s all. It’s still a rare problem in my neighborhood, but things change quickly.

    Basso Profundo withstanding.


  369. Jesper  May 24th

    Yea, Grey. You are missing that motorcycle riding is also about passion. Passion and common sense doesn’t always go well together.

    For the price of a 919, you could also get 10 Jincheng motorcycles. Which will probably take you from A to B just as reliable as the Honda.

    I say common sense is to ride what ever bike you can afford and want to ride. You can compare engineering excellence and what ever all you want. If it’s about that to you it’s fine by me. I’ll still be smiling all the way into the sunset riding my Harley.

    I know, because I have both a 919 and a HD. :-D

  370. wulfgang  May 24th

    It’s to easy to be rude about Harley’s and their owners, so I’ll restrain myself as long as everyone thinks it’s a good idea never to mention them ever again on a website dedicated to motorcycling perfection. Sorry Jesper

  371. Jesper  May 25th

    Let’s just leave it at that. Just one thing though. I haven’t dedicated this website/blog to motorcycling perfection. I’m not even sure I know what that is.

    This blog is dedicated to all things motorcycle and motorcycle riders. No fingers pointed in any direction.

  372. Jorge  May 25th

    I for one don’t want Wulfgang to restrain himself. So here’s another angle. Harleys are loveable old retro bikes (steady Wulfgang) as are Bonnevilles and some Guzzis. It always seemed to me that the venerable CB750 deserved a following in the same way. A great machine, if not quite as long in the tooth as the others.

    I must admit that I thought that this was what Honda were doing with the Hornet/919, even though there are departures in styling. It seems now that if your want CB750 dna you have to have a CB1300, or in some markets a CB400. Surely there is a gap there for a trad inline four a la CB750. Meanwhile we have our beautiful machines- Lighter than a new CB400 but with 919cc. My third Hornet is just coming up to 30000kms. I’m not tempted by any of the current crop.

  373. Greynomad  May 25th

    Hej Jesper
    You are right. Motorcycling perfection means different things to different people, but wouldn’t an award of five rating helmets as found at the top of this site mean that the Hornet had approached perfection in the author’s assessment?

    I’m not knocking Harleys. They appeal to a lot of people, but I have yet to encounter one that the Hornet will not hose into the weeds. A mate had a WLA in the 1950′s. It had a foot clutch and tank-side, hand gearshift. If he had to stop in a hurry he was busier than a one-armed paperhanger with the crabs. And this at a time when the rest of us were riding English bikes which had gone to 4 speed Burman gearboxes, foot shift and hand clutch, a decade or more earlier.

    I buy a bike for performance. Acceleration, speed, cornering, braking, reliability, economy and comfort. I still get a kick out of lapping into a corner and hauling out the other side, from the lithe , nimble point to point agility of the Hornet and from the g-forces it generates taking off. It’s the same buzz as riding a good horse or doing aerobatics in a glider.

    With the possible exception of the Buell, a Harley just doesn’t cut it for me. I am with Steve, Wulfgang and Jorge. They are great old workhorses, but in a different arena from the Hornet.

    I should say thanks for continuing the site Jesper. It gives me a lot of fun.

  374. Jesper  May 25th

    Totally agree with you, Grey. If the HD and the Hornet where alike, I wouldn’t have one of each.

    You choose one over the other for totally different reasons. It’s like comparing pears with apples. I think that’s my point.

  375. Larry  May 26th

    On another note…I am soooo excited. Every summer I take a 10 day bike trip on my 2006 919, usually down to Deals Gap (tail of the dragon, one of Americas finest motorcycle roads. This year, there is a big bike rally at the time I want to go, and even though I love motorcyces, it is not my nature to enjoy being surrounded by them. So, I’m heading in a different direction. From Michigan where I live, west to New York, north through Vermont, New Hamphire to the Maine coast. Up the coast to Northern Maine, up into Canada, and circle back through Canada to Michigan. I camp when I travel, and since I don’t have much money, my trips are peanut butter and jelly trips. All I want to do is ride! I bought Dowco luggage. Saddlebags, tank bag and trunk. Inexpensive, but with care, I hope they will last. When the trip is over, It all comes off since I bought the bike partly because of its naked styling. I’m leaving Thurs!..seeya

  376. Steve  May 26th

    Wow.. That sounds like a great trip Larry.

    I’m planning a trip down the Pacific Coast on 101 here sometime soon and know the feeling of anticipation.

    Please take a camera and take a lot of pictures.. I’m going to take a small laptop and try to document the experience with a 919.

    Regardless, have a blast and ride safe!

    And of the previous discussion, I would also like to thank Mr. Bram for allowing us to converse and exchange ideas and tips on his dime.

    A tip of the hat to you sir.

  377. Jesper  May 26th

    Thanks for the kind words guys. I appreciate very much that you take the time to share your thoughts and ideas with me and each other.

    Sounds like a good trip Steve. If you want to share your documentation afterward, I’d be happy to post it.

  378. Arctic_Moose  May 28th

    Hey Larry I don’t know if you’ll see this before you leave on your adventure, but I’m in NewBrunswick Canada the province above Maine. If I’m off when you come through this part of the world I’d be more than happy to give you a little tour of the region. Maybe show you some of the finer points of this beautiful province I live in. Well I’m off for a little jaunt happy riding all an keep that right hand pinned.

  379. Larry  May 28th

    Arctic Moose,
    I’m going to leave tomorrow morning (Fri). I don’t know how long it will take me to get to Maine. Maybe 3 or 4 days. My plan is to ride up the coast, and at some point head inland towards Baxter State Park. Maybe we can climb Mt. Katahdin together. I climbed it years age, it’s a gas! If you get this, you can contact me at and we can swap phone no’s.

  380. Custard  May 30th

    I have a Blue 2001 919 Hornet and love it to bits. I ride it to and from London every day it’s done 35,000 miles doing an average between 60 and 70 miles a day… And if you want to you can really wring its neck, having a slightly detuned Fireblade engine there’s no fear of blowing it up, and it’s a wheelie monster if that’s your kind of thing. It has been serviced regularly and all I’ve had to replace are the usual consumables like chain, sprockets, brake pads and tyres. Only just done it’s first set of rear wheel bearings in 8 years. Finish is great especially considering I ride it every British winter which is very salty, just slight corrosion on left cylinder block which just needs touching up with a bit of Honda touch up paint. My only disappointment with this bike is the un-adjustable front suspension which is no great loss unless you really want to give it some track time. I can’t believe this bike is so rare, just goes to show the power of the motorcycle press. MCN was slightly disappointed because it didn’t have the raw power of the Fireblade and they killed it before it got to see the light of day. What did they expect for an un-faired steel framed bike that was meant to be the all rounder that it is! I love it and will always keep it as my all rounder no matter what. :-)

  381. Greynomad  May 31st

    Good for you Custard. Anyone who can handle London traffic deserves a garland.

    It should be possible to pick up a set of adjustable forks from a later model at a reputable wreckers yard. I believe the steering head is the same across all models. Wulfgang may be able to help as he is in your neck of the woods and has modified his suspension at both ends (see July 10 and 24, and Aug.9 posts above).

    I have run both my Hornets on 91ron unleaded. Has anyone tried a higher octane rated fuel, and was there a noticeable change in either performance or economy?


  382. Custard  June 1st

    Thanks Greynomad, a garland for riding in London, I like that idea, I did 4 years club racing in Supersport 400′s and never got one! Lol.

    Cool I’ll look into getting some more up to date forks, I didn’t realise they made later models adjustable. Thanks.

    Regarding 91ron unleaded – the standard is 95ron here and the super is up to 101ron (BP Ultimate). I tried BP Ultimate for a short while but found it actually impaired the performance and made the bike run a bit lumpy at low revs. I guess it’s to do with the ignition timing needing adjusting accordingly. Now this is quite interesting because I think my Hornet runs slightly lumpy at tick over on 95ron (Standard UK) and you do smell slightly un-burnt fuel at tick over as well. I have been assured on several occasions by both an independent and a Honda workshop that this is normal. Could it be that the Hornet should really be running on 91ron?

  383. Will Wiegman  June 1st

    Stepson races CRF’s and says that anything he’s ever done to a Honda except a steering damper and tires and mild sprocket ratio changes made it run worse.

    Honda spends tons of time and money testing and anything but what they recommend in the owner’s manual will take away from the performance somewhere in the rev range.

  384. Jorge  June 1st

    If you must make performance modifications to your bike, make them one at a time. so you leave yourself a basis for comparison. The Hornet is near enough for me not to bother, having kept up with some pricey hardware in my more silly moments.

  385. Greynomad  June 2nd

    Thanks gents. The manual says 91ron or higher. I wasn’t going to alter the hardware as that can lead to unexpected results. Just interested if anyone had used higher octane. The dealer says the chip recognises the octane rating of the fuel and adjusts the systems to the optimum settings. Next fill will be premium (98ron) and if there is a change I will post it.

    Went to the Winton Historics on Sunday with a friend who campaigns a 1969 Renault Alpine Gp.4. He drives it to meetings and competes, as for a true gentleman’s conveyance. He was running in a new engine so it was a sedate 150km trip, but he runs it on Avgas (101+ron leaded). The motor was very crisp and it got me wondering whether a higher ron unleaded might work in the Hornet.

    By way of contrast I occasionally fly a Texan 500 ultralight powered by a Rotax 912S which runs quite happily on 95ron unleaded car fuel.


  386. Steve  June 2nd

    Hi Will,
    I respectfully disagree with your Stepson’s opinions.

    Honda has been in the business of making racing machines and engines for over 40 years now and it translates to the consumer level product more than ever before.. While I can’t speak directly for the relatively new large bore 4 stroke technology of the CRF, the inline-four platform is tested and tried in the performance category for a number of years previous.

    If you read Jesper’s opening comments at the top of the blog, there are a number of enhancements that are available for this particular motor and bike that increase the performance, sometimes drastically and right out of the box. Changing out from the somewhat restricted exhaust is a great start.

    As you know from a healthy meal of nuts and berries, the old rule of “Fast in fast out” can apply immediately.

    This also goes hand in hand with re-mapping the ignition and or fuel injection with his addition of the power commander. With this, and professionally paired to a great exhaust, you can see gains of 18 – 25% in horsepower and slightly less in torque.

    This engine was designed and “detuned” a long time ago to go fast and hard for a long time. I would hazard a guess that 98% of the motorcycling community have suffered no ill effects from “overclocking” the proven engine to more suit their tastes.

    I have done many modifications, most of them to better suit my style of riding, but I have also thrown on a shorter sprocket as I ride a lot in town. It makes a world of difference.

    The discussion of mods are long and endless, but the ever intuitive engineers at Honda know that the general public are going to “make their bike their own” at some point. If that wasn’t true, there would be no multi-billion dollar industry to support these machines.

    Their testament to performance in variation is the foundation of Honda reliability. I would not hesitate to endorse well designed aftermarket additions to the 919.

    It’s a wonderfully stable platform that has room for improvement. As the factory and design team didn’t have five years to come up with, “the ultimate naked bike”, the rest of the world did.

    With that said, I’m looking forward to the arrival of my Delkevic mufflers and Akropovic maps for the Power Commander that’s sitting on my kitchen table and not in my motorcycle.

    I also agree with Jorge.. One modification at a time. Dial on only what you can dial off. That can get expensive and dangerous rather quick.

    Last point is gas, or petrol for you across the pond. I tried running 92 AKI (octane) which I believe is 97 RON in Europe and it ran hot as hell and blued the pipes out. It also shuddered a bit on a front wheel pull from a stop.. I backed it down to a “mid grade 89″ (94 RON) and it made a world of difference. I also pulled the plugs on the outside before the switch, cleaned them and it made a huge difference in carbon in the tips of the plug.

    While 100 AKI may be prescribed for the Rotax Grey, I have had better days with the higher octane. I think this is also due to the reduced compression in this engine. But I would definitely want, “full strength” poop in anything I was actually flying as opposed to riding.

    So my advice to those in my part of this country is the hotter the climate and the harder the riding, try lowering the octane (A TOUCH)… This time of year, I buy crap 87 to 89 and it runs like a dream up to tach with stock plugs.

    God Dammit I love this bike.. It just keeps getting better. And faster…

    Oh, and sorry for the long note.

  387. John  June 5th

    Back on a bike again after 25 years,the hornet 900 is a great re-introduction to riding.So easy to ride, looking forward to going for a blast around sydney ( old pacific highway, kangaroo valley etc ). Thanks guys for comments.Have noticed the throttle to be sensitive but will try higher idle speed.

  388. Trev  June 9th

    Hi Jesper,
    I would like to know if fitting a power commander has smoothed out the throttle response in low gears at low revs.

  389. Jesper  June 9th

    Hi Trev,

    I assume that you mean the noticeable “on/off” feeling that electronic fuel injection sometimes give.

    I’d say that it’s still there. But I have gotten so used to it that I don’t notice it anymore.

    As far as I recall it was a little bit less noticeable after I had the power commander installed.

    I wouldn’t recommend buying a Power Commander only just for smoothing throttle response. I do recommend it if you also want a more even pull all the way to the top.

    But remember it as to be programmed on a test bench by a pro to fit your exhaust and intake.

  390. Trev  June 11th

    Thanks for your reply concerning the power commander.
    I would like to say thanks for a great site. It has been a valuble source of imformation.
    I would be interested if anybody else had anything to add to the debate of the on/off fueling in low gears at low revs.
    Also does anybody know if there has been any changes in the engine from 2001-2008 or has it remained exactly the same.
    I would like to end by saying what a great all round bike the 900 hornet is.
    I have returned to biking after a gap of about 30 years and the hornet is putting a large smile on my face.

  391. Steve  June 11th

    Hey Trev,

    As far as the on/off fueling goes, (If I’m understanding what you are referring to) Take a look back at Feb 17th of last year. Quite a common question and response from new owners.


  392. Greynomad  June 12th

    G’day Trev and welcome to the fold. The throttle is sensitive but the key at low speeds is the way you use the clutch. Once you are rolling it’s really just a matter of being in the right gear. You will get the feel of it pretty quickly. Enjoy!
    And Steve, thanks for your comments. I have done most of my aviation in gliders, so what is making the fan up the front in a powered aircraft go round is of passing interest, as long as it keeps revolving. But you are right, if you are approaching a stall it’s nice to have a bit of oomph to get you out of trouble.
    I have burnt a tank of 95 ron in the Hornet without a noticeable difference in performance (relying on the seat of the pants). The next fill will be 98 ron. Watch this space.

  393. Soldano  June 13th

    Hello all.

    I bought an 06 919 this spring with less than 3,000 Kms on it. Owned by a dealership mechanic who was more into motocross. He added Yoshimura cans and a Renthal bar.

    I’m in Montreal and am leaving in 10 days for a very casual 5,000 Km trip to British Columbia where I will be making my new home.

  394. Steve  June 13th

    Welcome Soldano,

    Considering you will roughly triple the mileage on the bike with your ride to your new home, please prepare to be quite sore and ponder a complete ass and lower spine replacement once you get into my neighborhood on the left coast.

    3100 miles on a brand new bike is a quite an abrupt introduction. Don’t get me wrong, It’s a great bike but that’s borderline insane in my humble opinion.

    As a fellow 919 owner, I wish you the best, and will be scanning internet news for headlines like, “Bewildered, staggering motorcyclist found in Prince George.” and “Biker group chases relocating citizen in Saskatoon”

    Regardless of my opinion, God’s speed my friend and congratulations on the purchase.


  395. Jesper  June 13th

    I think it sounds like a perfect trip. I assume you’re not trying to do it in just a couple of days.

    I’ve done more than 5000km within 2 weeks more than once on my 919. It’s no problem at all.

    Realistic I think you can do around 5-700km (or 8-9 hours) a day for a few days without getting too busted.

    I’ve done 1100km in a day, but then I was tired when I reached my destination, and not prepared to do it again the next day.

    Have a nice trip Soldano. Ride safe.

  396. Soldano  June 13th

    I’m looking at a totally casual 6-8 weeks for the trip. It’s the chance of a lifetime. I’m not in a rush for it to end. :~)

  397. Steve  June 14th

    Sorry, I misunderstood and thought it was a get across Canada as fast as possible to the new home kind of thing.

    6 to 8 weeks would be perfect and a great ride.

    Regardless, have a great ride and share some pics along the way.


  398. Larry  June 14th

    To bolster your plans for your trip, I bought my 06 919 on ebay in Connecticut. I live in Michigan. I picked up the bike and put on about 1000 miles bringing it home. No problem. I just returned from touring New England, and put on 2300 miles in 9 days. Pure pleasure. I have a flyscreen which is a help, and I put on a rear sprocket with 2 less teeth which smoothed out high speeds for touring. Have Fun!

  399. Larry  June 14th

    BTW, This past trip is my 4th long (2-3,000 miles) trip on this bike. I have grown to like it more each trip. I love having a sport bike that I can blast through the twistys, and still tour on reasonably comfortable.
    Also, Jesper, thanks so much for this forum. I bought the 919 in part because of the reading I did on this site. Do you still have your 919?

  400. Jesper  June 14th

    Thank you for participating, Larry. Yes I still have my 919. Not using it much since we bought our house the year before last though. So I am thinking of parting with it, it hurts, but the economy might demand it.

  401. Greynomad  June 16th

    Jesper, please don’t say you are selling the Hornet and keeping the Harley. That would be like the Pope announcing that he had decided to become a Muslim.

  402. wulfgang  June 16th

    I didn’t know the Pope had a Harley.

  403. Jesper  June 16th

    Yea, it’s not sitting well with me either. But I use the harley more than the Honda, and we won’t be going on a longer motorcycle trip for at least at couple of years I think.

    I need the money to buy a car for my business. My Harley is unique and I have way more money in it than it’s worth on the market. So the Honda has to go. But no doubt I’d like to keep it.

    I’ll get a another touring bike in a couple of years. But as the economy is atm. that’s the only way to go for me.

  404. Greynomad  June 20th

    Wulfgang, it’s the Archbishop of Canterbury who is into the biking habit, but he only has Vespers.

    Jesper, I am in shock. It’s a nice day here so time for a bit of Hornet therapy. Think I’ll go out and thrash a Harley or three.

  405. Jorge  June 23rd

    OK Jesper. Since all of the blogs are now in public domain, you should be able to download them all and sort- then hand them to your publisher, with the comments in categories. A must-have for every Hornet/919 owner.

    Meanwhile, I just hope some of the senior and more technically savvy contributors keep the fire burning. I always read my Helmet Hair Inbox.

  406. Jesper  June 23rd

    I have no idea what you are talking about, Jorge. Sorry.

    Helmet Hair is in no way about to close. On the contrary, I’m going to spend more time publishing new things in the future.

    All that is happening is that I might have to sell my 919 to buy a car for my business. Because now is not the best time to lend money.

    Some people are just having a cow because I’d sell the Honda before the Harley. Which I have already explained why.

    I’m not religious about what brand of motorcycle people ride and never have been. I respect people who ride what ever they want to ride and respect others for their choice as well.

  407. Greynomad  June 23rd

    Hi Jesper. I’m not really traumatised by your decision and understand the business reasons for it. Just teasing! Indeed, I regularly commit motorcycling bigamy by throwing a leg over the Suzuki. They are all good fun and should be enjoyed while we are fit and able, so we should ride whatever pleases us. I just happen to like the Hornet.

  408. Jorge  June 23rd

    Helmet Hair is your propriety, Jesper. I don’t suggest you close it. I simply made a suggestion to you for a useful guide based on the blog so far. I urged some of the cognoscenti to continue to support your column. I’m talking here of stalwarts like Greynomad, and also riders who have valuable conclusions based on actual experience and experimentation.

    I finished by stating I always read Helmet Hair. My intention is that you should be encouraged.

  409. Soldano  July 2nd

    I’ve done the first 1,000 Km of my trip from Montreal to British Columbia. The bike is so good, it’s easy to take it all for granted. Really NO vibration from the footpegs or handlebars. The engine is just barely working. Speed limit here up north on undivided 2 lane highway is 90 Km. So one can drive just under 110Km and not lose points. Course when passing, I get up to 160,170, just for a hoot. But if a cop nailed me right then – ouch.

    Suspension is very good. Ride is smooth and any bumps are easily handled.

    Funny how my modern bike has the old standard honda logo near the ignition and it makes me feel like I’m driving something from the 70/80′s. It’s like the Japanese cars today. There are elements that go way back to the first Japanese cars. If it works, stick with it, just make it a little bit better all the time.

    Here are some pics.


  410. Greynomad  July 3rd

    You live in a beautiful part of the world Soldano, and thanks for sharing a little of it. A friend from Toronto has just emailed to say they (Mum, Dad and 5 kids) are off to their cottage in Bancroft Ontario near Algonquin park where there are bears. Does that explain the artillery on the Hornet?
    Happy motoring.

  411. NUCYM  July 17th

    Hello gentlemen, you all have been busy while I have been out riding my 919. It took me a while to catch up on the blog. I just hit 600 miles and did my first oil change on my ’07. I used 10W40 Mobil 5000 without the engergy saver symbol (manual says not to use any oil with that symbol). It has the same SAE ratings as the high dollar motorcycle oils. I also used a Walmart Supertech ST7317 filter. Oil is staying clean and the bike is running great so the combination seems to agree with it. I also tightened the chain and adjusted the clutch cable. I added an NEP cruise control I trimmed to fit with my grinding wheel, and the clear honda flyscreen winshield. I’ve added a Tourmaster duffel type bag that goes across the passenger seat and has two criss crossed bungees that hook together under the seat. Did I miss anything? Do any of you guys have any guidance on chain tightening to ensure long life and proper alignment?

  412. Jorge  July 17th

    Touring nirvana. I’ve only just looked up Soldano’s pictures, including the fully laden 919. Just proves that you can do anything on a 919. And it keeps the classic pioneer feel alive. Superb. The guitar really adds class.

  413. Greynomad  July 19th

    Sorry Soldano, after reading Jorge’s post and having a closer look it’s obviously a guitar, not the stock of a firearm. Any mistaken attribution of bellicose intent to a man of peace is regretted.

    NUCYM,I tighten my chain to the marks on the rear fork which appear to be accurate as there has been no tyre scrubbing, or steering issues. The current bike has only done 9500km and the chain does not appear to have worn or stretched at all, so no adjustment has been required. It is cleaned with kerosene and oiled every 400km at which time tension is checked.
    I use Honda GN4 oil in the engine. It is now 10W30 SAE as Honda Australia recently dropped from 10W40 to 10W30. It is made and packed here for Honda by Caltex. 4 litres cost $39.95Au. or $31.96 of yours.

  414. Greynomad  August 5th

    The Hornet has now been run on a tank of 98ron fuel. No changes were made to ignition timing or othe engine management systems, nor were technical tests like stopwatch runs undertaken, so this is all based on impressions. The experience confirms what was said by Custard (June 1st) and Steve (June 2nd). There was no noticeable increase in acceleration or roll on performance, in fact there may have been some hesitation at about 3500 revs under load. At idle there was some odour of unburnt fuel, the engine ran hotter and there was evidence of uneven firing. Premium fuel (98ron) is about 6c a litre more expensive than 91ron. While others may have a different experience the indications with my standard rig Hornet 900 are that it is more comfortable running on 91ron fuel.

    In my blog of 2nd May reference was made to a ride to Marysville, when my friend’s son tried out my Hornet. He has just bought a new 2007 model which will be delivered shortly.

  415. NUCYM  August 9th

    Graynomad, thank you for the chain and oil information. I am up to 1100 miles and enjoying every new mile. I took a nice two hour ride one way to Greece New York and visited the neigborhood in lived in back in the mid 60′s. It was rural back then but is totally developed now. Still looks like a nice place to live though. I got caught by a tourist trap on the way back. There was a pub/resturaunt that had a sign across the entire front that read “WORLDS GREATEST CHEESEBURGER”. I was compelled to turn around and try one. I should have known something was wrong when I had to order the WORLDS GREATEST CHEESEBURGER DELUX to get lettuce, tomato, and onion added. $9 and change yielded a good cheeseburger on a toasted bun with fries and a drink with free refills, but World’s Greatest? Pretty bold claim. The meat was thin, but tasted like they marinated it in something. Other than a slight disappointment in the cheesburger, the sun was out, the temperature was perfect for riding and it was just a flat out glorious day. Here’s to getting out and exploring!

  416. Reddythebaron  August 13th

    Hi. About your pictures: you have one photo of your 919 with full bags. Do you have a frame under the saddle bags or are they laying against the exhaust? The heat shield seems to do a good job? I would like to add some bags but worry about not have a frame to keep the bags of the pipes. Any of you other riders have a comment on that?

    Thank you. I am new CB919 owner, new to me anyway. I just bought a very clean 2005. I love it. I am taking the long way everywhere. What an awesome machine. I hope to go on a trip this weekend. Although I don’t have a windscreen yet. I tried the highway today and 130 kph is just fine.

    Thanks again.

  417. Jesper  August 13th

    Nope. No frame. The heat shields don’t get warm enough to melt the nylon.

    Two important advice though.

    First. Put protective film on your heat shields and painted parts where there’s contact with the bags. Bags vibrate/shake when riding and they will scratch paint and metal pretty bad.

    Second. Watch your indicators. Don’t put any straps around them. I almost broke one of just because of a bag strap.

    Otherwise just ride on buddy. Enjoy the machine, it’s an awesome motorcycle.

  418. Custard  August 13th

    Funnily enough a friend of mine has just lent me his Oxford seat bag last night and I tried it for the first time on my 60 mile commute this morning. Worked absolutely fine. Its a bungee strap version which I wanted to try as I was originally advised to use one that zips to the seat because of the lack of luggage hooks. I hooked it on to the grab rail and the passenger footrests plus used a couple of additional straps over the top of the bag to the rail and footrests to secure it more. As Jesper has said it’ll be a good idea to protect everything from getting scratched otherwise it all worked really well.

  419. Reddythebaron  August 13th

    Thanks guys. Thats great news. My friend is selling his 3 months old Givi soft bags, I will be buying them for sure now. I am out to get a new tank bag and rain suit. The forecast is terrible but I am going anyway…

    Thanks again. By the way- great blog. I am subscribed.

  420. Reddythebaron  August 17th

    Just got back from a 1200 kilometre ride over 3 days in the mountains . I love this bike even more. I will be getting a fairing, but it wasn’t that bad.

    I taped up the plastic for the saddle bags, great tip, thanks again. The tape was almost worn through when I got home today.


  421. Jesper  August 17th

    Yea, tape doesn’t really cut it. Tried that as well. Most motorcycle dealers carry a thick protective film that won’t wear through or get damaged if the heat builds up.

  422. Larry  September 7th

    I am at about 18,000 miles on my 2006 919. This winter I am planning on changing my brake fluid and radiator fluid. I am thinking of bringing it into the dealer for a valve adjustment, but the bike runs perfectly, and I don’t know if I want it messed with. What do y’all think. Any other maintenance thoughts?

  423. Arctic_Moose  September 9th

    Well Labour day has come and gone here in Canada, a sure sign that fall is on its way. I never put on as many kms as I would of liked but what I did I enjoyed. For the end of summer blast I went on a little camping trip to Mactaquac provincial park beautiful place. Just me my 919 a couple brew and a relaxing camp fire ahhh priceless. Hope everyones enjoying them selves and safe motoring

  424. PLV  October 11th

    I’ve just spent too much time reading all postings and am so happy to know how much my passion for my machine is shared all around.
    I am on my second 2003 919, having crashed the first one and spent a week in the emergency room, because of a night I shouldn’t have been driving…
    My favorite mod to my bike has been the ohlins rear shock and spring kit for the front. It has made ALL the difference. No more front end dive like the originals. I have found that SATO RACING in Calif have the nicest frame sliders for the bike. After crashing the first of my Hornets(still makes me cry) I took a look and the sliders broke without damaging the engine.
    I had put 64K kms on the first one and am up to 44K kms on the second, the bike is bullet proof if you dont send it into a car at 85km/h.
    I just bought a set of devil trophy cans from Europe, they are 50% of until October 23rd.
    Longest ride has been Vancouver to Montreal in 6 days, thats 5050 kms. Was sore at the end but could have kept going. Longest one day trip was Montreal to the south of Virginia 1300 kms, loved the Tail of the Dragon and the roads of West Virginia, a riders paradise.
    Anyhow keep the shinny side up, and enjoy your bikes, I will.

  425. Dave  November 7th

    I fitted a HUGE windscreen to my 919. Couldn’t ride the damn thing without one, even over 100KMPH it was too much wind pressure for me (i’m pretty tall and skinny). So I just bought a large, reasonable looking clear windshield, modified the brackets so it would bolt to the headlight, and away we go!! Can do any speed now, and lazily leave my left hand on my leg – not recommended of course. Absolutley fantastic for touring, not so tiring. the wind blast hits me around the neck, so i still get the normal feel of the wind which i enjoy on my face. Best mod ever for the bike. Also fitted staintune pipes for a wicked sound.

  426. Larry  November 8th

    The new Cycle World magazine is highlighting the CB1000R this month. A different bike than the 919, but similar style, and sounds great. I love my 06 919, and couldn’t afford to switch if I wanted to, but if someone decides to give me 10 grand, I would give a lot of thought to that bike. The weather here in Michigan, USA has been horrible, but today the weather was 65 and sunny and off went me and the 919! With the bad weather here, I’ve spent too much time on ebay looking at bikes, and sometimes I think that, like Jesper I may pick up an older hog. There are some great deals on older Harleys, and whatever us sport riders may think about them, I sure find them distinctive looking. I hope you’re all well and you are still getting some riding in.

  427. Jennifer  December 13th

    Thinking of buying and 900/919 Honda Hornet. As I am height challenged, has anyone lowered this bike successfully?

  428. Willy  December 14th

    I am 5’8 1/2″ with a 29″ inseam and find my 919 is low enough for me to plant my feet flat on the ground at stop lights.

    You can lower it in the back by adjusting the spring pre-load which you probably should do anyway if you are less than 150 pounds.

    The secret is to not lower the front as much as the back. You only need to lower the front about 1/2 as much as the rear.

    Try lower profile tires, too but only go one range from stock. Anything you do to the suspension may or may not have some affect on handling so it is wise to change one thing at a time and ride it immediately to see if any adverse consequences arise from that particular change.

  429. Ar4ctic_moose  December 25th

    Merry Christmas fellow 919 owners and bike riders of all sorts. Hope everyone has happy riding in 2010

  430. Dave Denham  January 22nd

    Well, I suppose all you Blokes Downunder are having the time of your lives riding and enjoying your Summer. Not so just yet up here (Clarkston, Washington). The Pacific Northwest is starting to show signs of Spring (probably too early and very premature), but we’ve been on a few 100 mile rides for lunch on 55 degree days, and we love ‘em whenever they come grace us. I hope everyone is doing well. Share your rides as it gives me courage to wait for Spring to come roaring in.

    Dave Denham

  431. Wes  January 27th

    I’m looking at buying either a used 599 or used 919. Prices are actually pretty close, so I thought why not the 919… My question is this, is the seat height going to be to tall for my short legs, I am 5’8″ with a 30″ inseam… Any riders with similar height that can give me advice?

  432. Wes  January 27th

    Nevermind, I guess I could have just read Willy’s post above… guess it will fit me :)

  433. Dave  January 28th

    I’m 5′ 8.5″ with a 30″ inseam and I can’t stand flat footed, but can up on my toes a bit. It is fine…..

  434. Larry  January 29th

    Wes, I’m a hair shorter than you. I’ve had my 919 for 3 years. I’ve put a little over 20,000 miles on it. I bought it because it fit me better than other naked’s that I was considering. I felt that if I bought a 599, I would regret not buying the 919. I love my bike, and am very comfortable with the size of it.

  435. David  February 19th

    I have spent countless hours researching the 919 as i love the look and heaving set on one just feels right. I have a 2002 in beautiful shape on hold. My question is: is it to much of a bike for someone that has not ridden in 25 years. (other than recently taking some dirt bike courses and enjoying them thoroughly) I use to ride a BMW 750 with some modification (high compression pistons and lightened flywheel) I am struggling with this as no other bike attracts me. Please advise.

  436. Arctic_Moose  February 20th

    Hey David I’d like to say its a wonderful bike even for someone who hasn’t rode in a while, as it has a nice smooth power band. Comfortable riding position and the power to get you out of any trouble that may arise while passing etc. Honda has done their homework on this one. I love my 919 :o)

  437. David  February 21st

    Thank you Moose. I have now found an 04 599 an considering it as an option. Is there a big difference in the learning curve and feel at low speeds between the two bikes?

  438. Macka  February 21st

    Hi all. I have read this entire blog and you have all convinced me the used 06 I found is the bike for me. It’s in very good nick with 7,7xx miles. I think for a Honda that is barely run in. As I live in upstate New York it will be a while till I can ride it though. Summer suddenly seems so far away!!! Thanks for all the information and kudos to Jesper for a great column. I am 53 and have a 1974 Triumph Trident which I love but have had many issues in the six years I’ve owned it. Decided I needed a more reliable bike but had no idea what. Not into cruisers or racing style bikes. Had a good feeling about the Triumph street triple 675, but as I’ve never had bigger than a 750 I wanted something a bit….more. Saw the Honda in a camper dealers showroom and asked about it. At that stage I had never heard of, seen, or noticed a 919. Talked to the original owner and did some research and came across Helmet Hair. After reading all the posts and feeling your enthusiasm I knew this was IT. I had a ’79 GS750 in Australia (I’m a transplant) and thought that was a great bike, but I am sure this will be far superior. I am so excited! This has the makings of a fantastic year. By the way, NUCYM, I am near Syracuse. If your near (or not)
    I would be pleased to meet up. Some of the contributers here should be writers, they are so entertaining. I, however am not much of a typist, so you won’t hear much from me. But I hope to give a bit from time to time.
    And my humble opinion to David, if you are still reading, why consider 599 when you can have a 919? You had a 750 already. I know which way I would go.
    This is my totally unqualified opinion.
    Anyway thank you all again for your great and informative posts, and enjoy riding

  439. Dan  February 25th

    Hey everyone. I just found this blog and am really grateful to find so many fans of the 919. I am currently riding a 1979 cb750 but am looking to upgrade to a 919 as soon as I find just the right one. I’m sorta shocked to find that you can still find new ones out there. I wonder if anyone has anything to say about which years models are more desireable as far as major (or minor) upgrades honda made to the bike. Any opinions would be appreciated.

  440. Arctic_Moose  February 25th

    Hey Dan your 1979 is it a cb750K with the plastic wrap around cowel on the rear tail light. Or is it a tail light that sits on a chrome fender? I have one with the plastic cowel and I seem to find they are more rare around here.

  441. E. P. Schauss  February 27th

    greate site. i’ll be back.

  442. Dan  March 9th

    Hey Arctic_Moose, mine is the 750K with the tail light on a chrome fender. I tried to modify to to get more of the SS look that you are descibing, but decided it was to much hit and miss buying on ebay to really be effective. Plus I think the old chrome look is kinda cool.

  443. E.P.SCHAUSS  March 13th

    I am back. 27k miles and time for oil & filter. Just replaced both tires with pilot power TC2′s. Maybe time for chain & sprokets (RK & OEM). Next thing would be front brake pads (OEM again). Then at 31k to 32k miles, valve check, plugs and oil filter. Yes I like Honda parts and so does my ’06 919.

  444. 129CBRider  March 13th

    In the 80′s I had a CB750K and it was fast and seemingly indestructable. I found a used 2002 919 5 years ago and it has all the old bike good qualities plus fuel injection. I will keep the 919 forever! It does it all, even gravel roads are not a chanllenge for it.

  445. Larry  March 13th

    I’ve got about 20,000 on my 06 919 and I don’t really want to mess with valve adjustment since it runs perfectly. Any thoughts on how often the valve adjustment should realistically be done.
    E.P. Schauss, will your 32,000 mile adjustment be your first?

  446. E.P.SCHAUSS  March 15th

    Hey Larry,
    Honda recommends valve checks every 16k
    miles. My first check on 2 919′s showed no adjustment was needed. At 20k miles, I would suggest that you or the shop do the check. At least you will have some peace of mind.

  447. E.P.SCHAUSS  March 15th

    Just thought I would offer some tips for installing a Honda center stand that could save a lot of time and frustration. Let me know.

  448. Jesper  March 15th

    That would be awesome. If you have photos and description on how to install the center stand. You can email it all to Then I’ll upload it as a separate post for everyone to see.

  449. Steve  March 25th

    I just picked up my new 2007 919 last night. It is awesome. I love it more everytime I ride it.

    I bought a new CB750k back in 1981 and have loved it ever since.

    When looking for a new bike I thought I wanted a cruiser. I searched for a few months and was about to buy either a 2008 Honda VTX1800 or a 2010 Harley Dyna Super Glide Custom. I went for a final ride on both before I decided. I then went home and rode my 1981 CB750k and had more fun on it than either of the other big cruisers. I decided that night I was not going to get a new bike unless it was like my old one but with fuel injection. I research on the internet starting from 2010 back looking for something called a naked bike. The newest one I could found was a 2007 919. I then started searching for a used 919 and could not find one near St. Louis. I was about to go to NJ to get a new 2007. I stopped at the local dealer in St. Louis and they had one. I bought it ASAP.(6300.00 out the door 3-23-2010) Is that a good price?

    I love it and I plan to have this one forever like my 1981 CB750K.

    My wife wants me to sell the old one but somehow I don’t think I will ever let it go.
    (It will never sell wink wink)

  450. Larry  March 25th

    Steve, that is a great deal! I bought my 2006 919 2 years ago, barely used on ebay, and like you , I went through a lot of indecision. I just turned 20,000 miles on it. (I take a long trip each summer). The bike came with 2 brothers exhaust and a flyscreen. I added a centerstand. 3 options that I think are important to that bike. I’m thrilled with my decision. I hope that you enjoy yours as much as I’m enjoying mine.

  451. Jorge  March 25th

    Larry’s comment about the centre stand reminds me of my recent folly trying to find a hard bit of ground at the coast to prop the bike on it’s side stand. In short I ended up leaving the (’06 Hornet 900/919) ignition on for 90 minutes before the penny dropped. With the headlight on, there was not enough power left to run the ignition light let alone make the starter motor click. Push starting gave the odd bang. Towing 1000 metres in gear yielded mothing at all- not one power pulse.

    I phoned the dealer who gave dire warnings about the sensitive electronics, and probable damage to the alternator if I tried to start it. And even if it did start it would stop as soon as the jump leads came off. So of course I ignored him and got the AA guy out anyway.

    I worried a bit when I saw that the AA guy was a bit of a cowboy in a rough van. He jumped his portable battery pack across the bike battery and away she went. He left the pack connected for 5 minutes and disconnected it. The engine kept running. He did say however that if I stopped it I’d have to call him out again. So I rode the tank dry going back home. Fortunately I had filled 60 or so kms before the stop and was able to ride 200 or so. The bottom line is that the bike started as though nothing had happened and has gone perfectly well ever since.

    My advice is to fill the tank before jump starting, and a fun day riding should recover the charge. My life is good.

  452. Larry  March 27th

    I could use some advice, please. I just put heated grips on my 2006 919. I could not find an accessory plug, and the dealer suggested the line to my running lights, but when I tested that my test light went out when I put the signal on. I wired direct to the battery for now, but I want to move my hot wire to a line that works with the key.Does anyone know where I can safely tap into for a keyed hot line?

  453. Jesper  March 30th

    Larry, I asked Sportly1 about your question. Here’s what he had to say:

    I will answer your question first. A GREEN wire anywhere is ground. A RED wire is +12 volts and can be found in the ignition switch or fuse box harness.

    Now let us consider other items:

    Is your test light a continuity checker / and you burned out the bulb?

    Does your hand grip harness have a fuse link, it should!

    Is there an adjustable temperature rheostat / where will you mount it?

    Remember that hand grip heaters will draw a fair amount of current (amps) and could blow what ever MAIN fuse you hooked it up to down stream.

    Since I am an old purist, how about a nice pair of cold weather gloves? Good luck.

    Regards sportly1

  454. Larry  March 30th

    Thanks, guys. I ended up running my hot directly to the battery with an inline fuse. I brought that into my fly screen where I mounted a banana plug. That gave me a convenient outlet for my 12v cell phone charger and/ or the heated grips. I travel on my bike and I camp when I do and rarely have access to 110v. The grips are mainly cuz, I have been a carpenter for the past 25 years and my hands are all screwed up. The cold really makes them hurt. Like you, sporty1, I have ridden a long time, and have traveled on some pretty ridiculous bikes in the past. I have to admit that I feel pretty wimpy getting those grips, but I’m glad I did. However, I did decide not to put in a hot tub on the bike

  455. adam  April 5th

    has anyone taken a 919 on not-paved roads? considering buying one and I do some adventurey-type stuff. I don’t want to off road it for real, just be able to get through off road stuff with it without killing the bike. I think that means a nice smooth slow application of power off idle. d616 tires would be the plan. thoughts? experiences with d616 on this bike?

    ps. I know this is a silly question at best. but you guys seem to ride them, so I figured I’d ask. my bike history is ’82 cb750f and ’99 zrx1100. zrx was way too much torque off idle on dirt. but never tried starting in 2nd….hmmm… 750 was fine, but not sure I want another….

  456. Steve  April 5th

    I just installed the Universal riser 1″ up and 1 3/8″ back. This made the seating position much more comfortable.

    I now need to upgrade the seat to make it more comfortable. I always seem to slide forward and pinch my boy against the tank. I am uncomfortable even on short rides. If I wasn’t loving every second on the bike I would never put up with the seat. I have found several upgrades on the internet. The Seargnt upgrade, the Spencer mod and a new Corbin Gunfighter and lady seat. I would like to know if anyone has any advice from personal experience with these options on their 919. Is the leather more comfortable (does it breath better). I have seen on the internet that the Corbin is the best but the price is high. The Spencer mod is a close second but you have to send your seat in.

  457. adam  April 5th

    I had a corbin for my zrx (came with bike) and didn’t like it at all – many people swear by that seat – so try before you buy! nice thing about modding what you have is you know what you’ll get. you might want to try cutting some foam and doing a little custom pillow to see what can help. short term, nothing’s faster or lower risk. I use an airhawk on everything for long rides and it’s amazing, but I doubt it would help with the sliding forward bit very much.

  458. 129CBRider  April 5th

    Everyone I know who has a Corbin says the foam is too hard. Corbin says you have to break it in for a few thousand miles but if you don’t weigh much it will never get ‘broken in’.

    I’d check some blogs on different brands or if you have one custom made, pay extra for a gel insert.

    Honda has the most comfortable stock seats so improving on them can be risky. You may end up with a less comfortable ride unless you carefully research what you are trying to accomplish.

  459. Custard  April 6th

    Hi Adam.

    I don’t know if this helps but I live 300 yards up an unmade dirt road and I have no problem at all with riding it in those conditions with standard tyres. Although I say that, I personally wouldn’t want to ride it continually on that kind of road. Also disheartening each time it rains on Monday after the weekend clean ;).

    I would be very cautious about modifying the seat. When my dad owned the bike before me, he had a slightly softer 1″ memory foam layer inserted in the rider section of the seat. Now that it has done an extra 35,000 miles its had its day. I had a replacement 919 when mine was in for repairs after some pillock knocked me off once, and I found the standard seat to be more comfortable.

  460. Arctic_moose  April 13th

    Ah nice weather at last on the east coast of Canada. Oil and filters have been changed tire pressures are good. A little on the cool side 10C but nothing a little extra clothing wont handle. Year three on my 06 919 ah I hope it’ll be as good as the last two. So i say to my fellow 919 riders may the season be long, dry and without any problems. :O)

  461. 129CBRider  April 13th

    I take it by the mention of ‘dry’ conditions that you may not have ridden the 919 in a good rain storm.

    I can tell you from experience that the 919 with Pilot Powers is as safe on the wet as can be in the wet.

    It will race down a twisty mountain road in a torrential downpour in the pitch black dark of a midnight thunderstorm with the confident surfooted ability of any bike out there.

    After 18 miles downhill, in the rain, in the dark, with a pucker factor off the charts, I will never doubt it’s ability ever again, nor trade it for eye candy.

    I saw my Maker on one turn but the 919 pulled me back from the brink of forever to ride another day.

    My boots were full of water tho. Not much protection in that respect, lol.

  462. Custard  April 13th

    You are absolutely right about the 919 in the wet.

    I did a tack day on the Grand Prix circuit at Bands Hatch last October and it absolutely chucked it down most of the day. I do have a bit of racing experience so was out there in the advanced group rubbing elbows with R1′s, Fireblades and GSXR1000′s, a lot of them race prepped and running full wets. They all thought I was mad, but with a set of Pirelli Diablo Corser 3′s the 919 handled amazingly well, surprised myself as well as the other guys! Not bad for a 2001 model with the unadjustable forks.

    We did get one session with a dry line and the old girl still gave as good as she got!

  463. Arctic_moose  April 14th

    Yuck rain sucks! I don’t doubt the 919′s ability just a personal preference to stay out of the rain all together. Never have gotten used to the ole boots filling up with water lol.
    I took her for a good rip yesterday brought er up through the gears pushing the red line in the first five gears… I don’t have the balls for red line in sixth nor the points left on my license.

  464. Steve  April 26th

    Has anyone mounted self amplified speakers on the 919? I am currently using an MP3 player with in-ear headphones with my full face helmet. That works ok but could be better. I also bought a half helmet to wear when just cruising around short trips and the headphones are not loud enough in the open air. I have seen on the internet self amplified speakers anywhere from 40 watts to 150 watts per channel. ($100.00 to $500.00) I would imagine at highway speed you would need a lot of power. They also have volume controls that are very expensive $175.00. What do you guys do?

  465. 129CBRider  April 26th

    Listen to the sweet sound of the Hornet’s growl as the intake damper opens up at WOT. :)-

  466. Jorge  April 28th

    My third Hornet/919 is now at 34000 km. It continues to run flawlessly.

    I now have to decide whether to buy Hornet number four from the unbelieveable deals I see on the net for mint, low mileage examples, or carry on with my resolve to take Hornet number three out to the 100000km mark. (I mostly commute so I am still on my second set of tyres- but I do give it the occasional blast). In autumn (the fall) there are usually some great buys as riders sell instead of riding through the winter.

    Whatever, I continue to recommend the Hornet to guys who want a bulletproof and fun bike.

  467. Larry  April 29th

    My advice is to take it to the `100,000 mark. I’ll go with you. I have about the same mileage on my 2006 919. I’ve tweaked mine to my personal style of riding, and will probably keep it for a long time. Like you, I see amazing deals on bikes out there, and I get tempted, but I’m going for the full ride outta this bike. BTW, I am in love with my new heated grips.

  468. Jorge  April 29th

    Thanks Larry. Good thinking, the itch has gone. Having just saved some dollars on a bike swap, and a whole lot of hassle, I think I’ll shout myself some heated grips. What brand are those beloved ones?

  469. 129CBRider  April 29th

    Oh, Adam, I’ve taken my 919 on street tires on gravel roads before. You just have to remember you have all those wheel spinning ponies at your call! It did fine.

    I have a friend who laced a wide rim onto his DR and he did really well with it with same tires that Buell uses on their Ulysses.

    I also have a friend who has ridden the full length of SA on his Ulysses and says a lot of their best roads are far rougher than our best roads. He’s never had a problem except one time when he tore the entire swing arm off of it hitting a foot deep pothole in a four lane in Brazil.

    Type XR900R into a search engine to see the ultimate off road 919. :)

  470. Larry  April 29th

    my heated grips are “hot grips” brand. I recommend them. They are high quality and look good. I had to call them and they were totally helpful. Read their website. One tip: For some unimaginable reason, on our 06 model, honda did away with the accessory plug that used to be in the headlight. I wired direct, with a fuse, to the battery. You guessed it, I left the switch on and came out of work to a dead battery. I then switched my hot wire to the ignition switch so that they turn off with the key.

  471. Larry  May 3rd

    Next year, I can retire, and also next year my son will be getting out of the marines. Him and I are talking about the possibility of riding our motorcycles from Michigan, USA to Brazil, or possibly further to Tierra Del Fuego. We have both traveled quite a bit, but never have either of us had such a motorcycle adventure. Anyone want to discuss/send advice re:this potential adventure?

  472. Jorge  May 3rd

    Hi Larry. There’s a Kiwi guy named Roscoe Pennell who organises trips from Santiago to Tierra del Fuego and back. Takes about five weeks and crosses the Andes but is OK on a road bike. Best to leave December to February for Southern hemisphere seasons. Googling “Roscoe Pennell Chile” will get it. If it suits I’m sure that you could break off and ride to Brazil, etc. Just a thought.

  473. Manuel  May 6th

    Hi all. It’s May 6, 2010. I curious if anyone posts to this site any longer? Thanks

  474. 129CBRider  May 7th

    Not for a couple of days anyway…

  475. nucym  May 8th

    It’s May 7th in up-state New York and were looking at snow this weekend! Will it never end ? Global warming-humbug. Steve,screaming deal on your bike. You did better than I did on my 2007 leftover. Manuel, those of us in the colder climates will start posting again as soon as it warms up a little. Here’s a dumb question I ran into while getting ready for this summer. Does the gearbox on a 2007 919 run in it’s own oil or does it run in the engine’s motor oil? I did not see a separate gear oil reservior while I was changing fluids getting ready for summer.

  476. 129CBRider  May 8th

    The 919 has a standard motorcycle crankcase and the oil is shared by both the engine and the gearbox.

    That is why Honda recommends using an oil specifically formulated for motorcycles. It would have additives to help keep it from breaking down when it gets squeezed between the gears or sheared between the clutch plates.

    I have been running 10W40 Chevron Delo 400, a synthetic oil made for turbo diesel engines and it is also rated CF/SM for gasoline engines with no problems whatsoever.

    Lately they added the Low Emission label to it so I’m gonna look for something else. Possibly the Delo 400 straight 40 weight for my South West Florida bikes this summer.

    If you want to be absolutely certain you are running the best oil possible just buy Royal Purple Max Cycle 20W50.

  477. 129CBRider  May 8th

    This is the way Mobil 1 explains the difference between auto and moto oils:

    “Additive packages are balanced differently for motorcycle engine and transmission operation. For passenger vehicles, fuel economy and emission system protection are higher priorities. These require low phosphorus systems and the use of friction modifiers. Motorcycle oils do not require friction modifiers for fuel economy and for better clutch friction less/no friction modifier is optimum. Motorcycle oils allow the use of higher levels of antiwear additives such as ZDDP (phosphorous).”

  478. nucym  May 19th

    Thanks 129 CBRider. Looks like I need to upgrade my oil. I did’nt realize there was not a separate gearbox with its own oil. It’s still cold in upstate New York so I’ve got some time to correct the situation before the season starts. Thanks again.

  479. nucym  May 19th

    Just caught up with your post. I am in Oswego, NY and if it ever warms up we’ll have to do some riding. Guys at work who ride all swear by electric jackets, gloves, boot inserts, etc. I am a bit of a purist and have not gone to this extreme yet, but am considering it because they are riding to work while my bike sits in the garage. The electric gear does extend the riding season and may be worth the money. Anyone here gone fully electric beyond grips and seats yet? Any manufacturer recommendations compatible with the small battery on the 919? It seems there are 65 watt and 90 watt systems. Best wishes to all for the new riding season.

  480. Ava Davis  May 19th

    my dad recently got a Hair Transplant, it was very expensive but the results are worth it.~”`

  481. 129CBRider  May 19th

    Inside the headlight is an accessory wire connection…not sure about the wattage though. I’ll try to research it.

  482. Greynomad  May 20th

    Better fit a Power Commander to the spam filter Jesper!

  483. Dave  May 21st

    Hi guys, I am finding my hornet suspension a bit harsh, tends to leave the tarmac over the ripples. I just commute and do some scratching around the mountains, no track days. Suspension is stock setting, and unserviced after 45000K. I have been informed by a suspension place to replace the springs, valves and oil to improve rebound and compression – $1000 worth all up. Any ideas??? Does anyone else find the stock suspension harsh ???

  484. 129CBRider  May 21st

    Lot of questions to be answered before you make a decision.

    Fork oil is probably worn out and low so it is letting the front tire bounce like a basketball. Generally speaking, springs don’t wear out.

    Is it stock because Honda sets them up for a single rider of 160 pounds? Or did you buy it used from someone who already had work done?

    If you weigh less than 160, then a lighter fork oil will be all you need. At 45000 miles it probably needs new oil anyway.

    If you weigh substantially more, actually adding 2 or 3 cc’s of oil will help it stay on the ground better. It would be better to drain it, replace with new oil and add 1 cc for each ten pounds you weigh over 160.

    What do you weigh?

  485. George  May 27th

    Wow! You have great collection of bikes. Guys Ankle Riding Boots are very comfortable while riding. I have bought one pair of Boots and its trendy and comfortable.

  486. PLV  May 31st

    I’m on my second 919 and both bikes behaved the same way. The front was too soft and the rear was too harsh. I upgraded to an Ohlins shock in the rear with matching springs for the front.The bike feels much more stable over bumps while in a curve. The rear doesn’t seem to want to skip and catch up to the front as much as before and the bike doesn’t seem to want to dive into the ground on hard braking. I would not ride the 919 without it anymore, it’s that good of an upgrade.

    Good luck.

  487. 129CBRider  May 31st

    PLV, just curious about loading…what do you weigh with your gear on?

  488. Dave  June 1st

    Thanks for the suspension advice guys,I don’t weigh much so maybe that’s why it’s so bad for me. Can’t afford the Ohlins shock, but I hear they are the best. I will have to settle for springs / valves / oil upgrade in my shock and forks. My bike is stock 2004 model. Thought about updrading to an Aprillia Tuono but love everything else about the hornet.

  489. Wulfgang  June 1st

    Congratulations to Ava’s dad on the success of the Hair Transplant, I assume he now has a mane like head of hair and the associate increase in strength unsurpassed since Samson got away from Delilah…

    Sorry George but I already have a very comfortable and I hesitate to add stylish pair of Ankle boots so I won’t be worrying Guy for the forseeable future.

    Hi Dave I had the same problem with the front end on my bike. I think it was Will who recommended progressive springs which is a great improvement. I chose the Hyperpro springs that came as a kit with lighter 5w oil. The forks worked so much better that I had a rear spring fitted to my standard shock. Overall a great improvement for about £300 front and back. You mention that the bike has covered 45000k without suspension service. I think a careful overhaul paying particular attention to the steering head bearings and the bearing in the bottom eye of the rear shock, mostly because these bearings are prone to wear and need fairly regular replacement. They also have an adverse effect on the handling if their not in perfect condition.
    I personally wouldn’t attempt to change the rear spring myself as it is a very short stroke suspension unit with an immensely/dangerously powerful spring, also the spring retaining collar does not have a slot to facillitate removal. So the damper rod eye has to be unscrewed from the damper rod while the spring is held compressed. Not an easy task even when you know what your doing and have the appropriate tools. Good luck

  490. Greynomad  June 6th

    Wasn’t that Simpson and Delicious, Wulfie?
    Good advice re the spring. Once compressed a coil spring on the front suspension of an MGB by jacking the wheel right up, and wiring the coils together at about 4 points using 3mm mild steel wire. Got it out alright but after a short time the wire loops let go one after another-SPROING. Would do your hand a mischief if it was anywhere near. There are proper tools for the compressing thereof, making the job easier and safer.

  491. Steve  June 7th

    Just wanted to let you guys know how much fun I am having riding my new 2007 Honda 919. I will go anywhere anytime for anyone just to get out of the house and go for a ride. I got a new one from honda March 2010. I have had it a couple of months now. I have 2500 miles on it. I love it more every time I ride it. I love the powerful acceleration all the way through the powerband. I love the looks of the bike.

    Do you guys ever go out in the garage and just stare at your bike? My wife thinks I am completly nuts now. She caught me staring at it and I was petting the nice leather seat.

    I also have a 1982 Honda CB750K which I bought new 29 years ago. I still love that bike too. I take turns every other time I go out for a ride. When I went looking for a new bike I thought I wanted a Harley Davidson but I could not see spending the money for a bike that is not nearly as fast, does not handle in the turns and is not as fun to ride. (why is everthing made today in the cruisers a v-twin? (don’t the cruiser guys like to go fast) I decided to get a new version of my 1982 Honda CB750K with fuel injection and a larger engine. There were none available to be had. I test rode the Harleys which by the way is a fun way to kill an afternoon. I have run out of Harley dealers in my area. (I feel guilty going to each one more that 2 times) I wish the Honda dealers would let you ride their new bikes. I found that the Harleys were nice but I still missed the power of the inline 4 that my CB750K has. It may be as fast or faster than the Harleys costing $20,000.00 with its 750cc engine and 29 years old. (by the way I never have to buy license plates again for the 1982 CB750K I got historic tags (good for life) I then looked on line and read about the naked bikes. I found a new 2007 919 and I am in love again.

    Corbin seat review: ($450.00 US aprox)

    I added a new corbin seat. The stock seat was uncomfortable to me. I would like to let you guys know that the Corbin seat is better but not much. It is hard as a brick. They say it takes a few thousand miles to break in. It does seem to be getting better or I am more used to it. I have aprox 700 miles on it. If you are on the gas it puts you in a very comfortable pocket. When you let off the gas the engine breaking on the 919 is pretty hard and you move forward out of the pocket. This is a constant in and out of the pocket when you work your way through the gears. The seat looks great. I got the all black leather with black piping and stitching. I will let you know how it is in a few months after the break in.

    Question for warm weather riding:

    The seat is very comfortable on a cooler day when you are not sweating on a hot seat. On a hot day it gets uncomforatble as you get hotter usualy after about 45 min to an hour.

    What do you guys wear when you ride on a hot day? I have read that I should wear Under Armour moisture wicking underwear, bicycle padded shorts etc..
    These both seemed to make things worse.

    Let me know what you wear.

    I hope you all enjoy riding your 919 as much as I do mine.

  492. 129CBRider  June 7th

    HAHA…true 919 addict! I’ve tried to trade mine in a few times but never do.

    I just added a 1991 Suzuki GSF400M to my stable by trading even for for my 2001 Buell Blast I had turned into a supermoto type ride. The Little Suzi is no 919 but makes a good errand runner in Florida.

    The 919 is permanently parked at the end of the Cherohala Skyway in the Smokey Mountains to ride the twisties when I’m up there.

    Oh, and apparently no one at Corbin owns a Corbin seat or they’d know it is impossible to ‘break them in’…ever.

  493. 129CBRider  June 7th

    Oh, for the heat I have mesh jacket, mesh pants, vented boots and sunglasses under a full face helmet with all the vents open and ride with the face shield open 1/8″.

    In SWFla it’s already a good 100 degrees on US41 all day long so keeping moving is imperative.

  494. PLV  June 8th

    With all the gear on, my weight is around 190lbs. The upgrade is really worth it. I rode the Dragon with and without this mod and the difference is huge. It just feels better in the twisties. It glues the bike to the road.(with the help of some Pilot Power’s)…

  495. wulfgang  June 9th

    Greetings from the Dark side(it’s just gone overcast here and started to rain a lot) still it’s coincided with a service and a fork seal replacement so it’s not so bad. The forks are now stripped down to all their component parts. After 15k miles since the last oil change, the grey gunk that poured out had acquired the aroma of used gear oil somewhat akin to tomcat piss but not quite as unpleasent. What I really wanted to look at after 45k miles was the condition of the fork bushings. Each leg has two bushes one on the stanchion (the shiny chrome bit) and one under the fork seal in the slider (the bit the brake calipers are bolted to) These bushes are made of what I assume to be some sort of copper alloy with a teflon coating that comprises the wearing surface of the bush. The Bible (Honda shop manual) advises that should the copper start to show through the teflon it’s time for replacement. Both the stanchion bushes are showing copper so are obviously past their use by date. Interestingly the slider bushes aren’t but I’m going to replace both while we’re at this level of disassembly. Currently the sliders are hanging from coathangers on the back of the toilet door with nice new silver paint drying and yours truly getting high on the fumes. Or maybe that’s the two pints of Wadsworth 6X I ingested fairly recently at The Prince Of Wales. Whatever, the important point I wanted to make regarding the ongoing suspension debate, is that Honda specify 10w oil for the 919Hornet forks. It’s to thick and causes over damping thus not allowing the forks to react quickly enough to track road surface imperfections (bumps etc.) 5W will make a big improvement. Also the standard springs are to soft for the majority of owners and should be replaced. You will appreciate these modifications if you ever have to do an emergency stop because of the consequent reduction in stopping distances. It could be the difference between a ride home and trip in an ambulance.
    Sorry if that is a little dramatic but I had some hairaising moments on my bike before I installed the Hyperpro kit.

  496. 129CBRider  June 9th

    Escellent advice for when the time comes to rebuild!

    And the advice on what to do to the forks is spot on also!

  497. Steve  June 9th

    I have started riding my 919 to work a few days a week. It is almost all highway and I average 80mph plus. I think it might be better with a windshield because I ride 45 mins each way. It feels ok naked for the most part and I would live with the wind if it were a shorter ride. I have looked on line and found the National Cycle Plexifairing GT. It looks to be a larger windshield that will work for the highway and longer trips but be able to be removed quickly as soon as I get home.

    I would also like to get a top case to carry my gear. I would like something that will hold a full face helmet, some weather gear and must be be able to be locked. I have found the Givi MonoKey E52. I was wondering if it would be too big. I have read that it is the best choice because they are almost all the same size outside. (36 46 and 52) but it is much larger inside??? I was also looking at a 45 because you can buy two for the price of the e52 and you could also use them as saddlebags with a third as a top case.

    Please let me know what you guys think of the windshield and top case I have picked out to buy very soon.

  498. greynomad  June 10th

    G’day Steve. A friend last week installed a Givi Maxia Monokey 50litre top box on his Hornet 900. A metal plate replaces the grabrail. A base attaches to the plate with 3 dzus pins, and the box clips to the base and locks on with a key. Very easy and secure. It looks professional, and not too big. I have sent an image to Jesper as I couldn’t attach it to this message. It will give you an idea of the view from the rear.

  499. Steve  June 10th

    Thank you Greynomad for the comment.

  500. Jesper  June 10th

    I put Greynomad’s photo up here

  501. Steve Noltensmeyer  June 30th

    Hey guys I just test rode a Yamaha Raider S. Looks good and has great power, braking and handling. I was looking for a Harley to go with my 919. I like the Fat boy but it is not as comfortable as the Heritage Classic. Have you ever seen or ridden the Raider? I really like the bike and now I am thinking about getting one some day.

  502. Dave  July 18th

    Steve, I have the National Cycle plexifairing III and love it. When I bought the bike on eBay I flew from Lewiston, Idaho to Los Angeles to pick it up and ride it home. I put the plexifairing on for the 1200 mile ride and haven’t taken it off since.

  503. Dave  July 18th

    Has anyone either changed handlebars or extended them back? I bought an extender that goes 1 inch taller and 1 inch further back. I haven’t installed it yet as I will need to increase the length of the cables. I’de like to hear what you have done to bring the lean angle a little more vertical, and, of course, how you did it.

  504. Dave  July 19th

    Hi All, Just an update on my suspension mods on the 04 919. I told the suspension company to just overhaul the forks, they basically dumped everything inside and fitted Ohlins linear springs (OEM has dual rate)valves, 5W oil, etc. Well, makes a HUGE difference to the handling, better cornering speed, bump compliance etc. I would really recommend this upgrade to a hornet. P.S, I have looked at EVERY other option for a bike (except sports bikes)as i was going to replace the hornet, but it really is the best little urban warrior out there – also cheap to insure, 44 mpg minimum, no one wants to steal it, etc, etc. Love this bike.

  505. 129CBRider  July 19th

    I put TAG dirt bike bars made for a KX80 on mine, perfect size for me, 5’9″.

    Luv the comment, “…no one wants to steal it…”. One of the initial reasons I bought my 2002, then I found out what a great all around bike it is.

  506. Dave Denham  July 20th

    129CBRider – How far (up and back) would you say the KX bars changed the position? Did you have to modify the stock cable lengths?

  507. Greynomad  July 20th

    These bars look interesting gents.

    I am currently working on a set of adjustable bars for the Suzuki, with infinitely variable 3 axis positioning within the parameters of the device. Fouling of the shroud is a major design obstacle on a sportsbike so the plan has changed 3 times. My design requires a clamp on the top of each fork to which the other components are fixed. They have been cut for me by a workshop from 25mm thick blocks of aluminium using a computer controlled high pressure water jet. The accuracy and finish are remarkable.

    It’s a wonder the manufacturers don’t provide adjustable bars, seats and pegs across their ranges. There would be a much wider market, particularly for sportsbikes, if you could get comfortable on them. A Thai massage is needed after an hour in the sportsbike crouch.

  508. 129CBRider  July 20th

  509. 129CBRider  July 20th

    My 919 is in the mountains and I’m in Florida so I can’t compare right now.

    You can order good dirt bike bars in any configuration you want as far as rise,width and bend angle offset from companies like Pro-Taper.

  510. 129CBRider  July 20th

  511. Larry  September 1st

    I just returned from another of my beloved summer bike trips on my 06 919. About 2400 miles through the Appalachian mountains. Michigan to Tenn., N. Carolina, S. Carolina, Georgia, Virginia, Ohio, back home. My bike now has about 26,000 miles. I like it more every year. I’m 60, and I do think about a cruiser, but the 919 cruises and also is a ball in the twisties. seeya

  512. Jim  October 6th

    Hi All
    I’ve been reading your posts for six months now since I bought an 03 919 back in April. I’ve always ridden the lightest bikes I could find which means a twin. I stipped my 72 commando
    combat to the bone and spent my free time searching out twisty little black tops and gravel roads in the northern Illinois boonies near the Wisconsin boarder. I could not wrap myself around the thought of a street only bike and nobody would ride with me so quit riding. I followed the 919 from the time it came out until it departed because of it’s impressive specs and thought that if I started riding again I would start here. I expected to be disappointed in the first thirty seconds but instead I asked the dealer to take it out again because it felt like a 650 twin. 5,000 miles later I,m ready to upgrade the suspention to get it to stick to the road better. On weekend rides I follow the pack and smile alot. One last thing. It was 32 degrees when I left for work yesterday morning and the bike started without the assist. How nice is that?

  513. 129CBRider  October 6th

    If you really want it to handle, put on some Pirelli Diablo Supersport tires,a steering damper and add 2cc of oil to each fork.

    Smooth as glass and sticks like glue!

  514. PLV  October 9th

    Pilot Power, mmmm good! I’ve had Bridgestones, Continentals, Metzelers and the Michelin are the only ones I can really wring the throttle with and keep some sort of traction when its cooler or wet. The Ohlins shock does make the rear wheel stick to the ground more too.

  515. 129CBRider  October 9th

    Actually I have Pilot Powers on mine right now but my next set I’ll definetly try a dual compound tire.

    Rode the 919 last month from Tellico Plains, Tn up 360 to 411 to 321 to Pidgeon Forge for a huge street rod show, then over the Foothills Parkway to The Dragon then over the Cherohala Skyway in the dark back to Tellico.

    Flawless 230 miles of constant two lane twisties except for the short stint on 411 four lane. Bike was flawless…

  516. Arctic_Moose  October 28th

    the Roadsmartâ„¢ is an advanced sport-touring radial tire with remarkable wet-weather performance, exceptional mileage and sportbike handling.

    The best wet-weather performance of any Dunlop road tire, with long-lasting mileage to match.

    MT Multi-Tread rear tire incorporates a long-wearing compound in the center of the tire tread and a lateral-grip compound on each shoulder to maximize cornering performance and provide class-leading grip and feel.

    Micro-sized carbon particles improve dry grip under acceleration, and wet grip is improved with a special silica additive

    Cosecant-curve tread design with deep and long grooves to evacuate the maximum amount of water in both straight-line and cornering conditions.

    This is what I put on my 06 919 after wearing out my originals after 8900kms front and back

  517. Greynomad  November 23rd

    Just installed Michelin Pilots on mine and did a 450km ride into the country on the weekend with a couple of friends. They are dual compound and plenty sticky for my style of riding (the tyres-not the friends)–I tend to wear the centre without too much scrubbing of the sidewalls. I got 15,500km out of the first set which isn’t too bad.

    How nice it was–good company, 25deg celsius, cows as fat as fools, green grass everywhere, the vernal smell of hay and silage. God is in his Heaven!

  518. Arctic_Moose  December 16th

    Sad sad day for me put some fresh hi-test in mixed in some fuel stabilizer started her up for a few minutes. shut her down pulled her heart (battery) put her cover on and said good night for a few months. I’m so sad I could cry.Boo hoo hoo

  519. Jorge  December 16th

    Well a Merry Christmas to all. It’s now summer for those of us in the south of our wee planet. The Hornet/919 is on a newish set of Avons (3rd set of tyres) and has a new Yuasa battery. That’s it. 38000km and no money spent after 4 years apart from tyres, chain oil and a battery. (At this rate my first 100000kms will take longer than I thought). The Scottoiler is good value.

    I’ve tried other bikes, but apart from fashion, which is subjective- there don’t appear to be any better bikes for my purpose out there. I’m sedate, but she still screams and wheelies if that’s what’s required. CB1000Rs are just as cheap second hand, if age and mileage match, for those who like that style.

    I wonder what I’ll be riding in another 4 years- very likely this same bike.

  520. Jorge  December 16th

    P.S. Oops I should add that I’ve observed the scheduled service intervals, and I now recall that I’ve had new brake pads front and rear. I don’t recommend skimping preventative maintenance.

  521. Dave  December 16th

    Hi Guys,just an update on some mods I did recently – added Aprillia Tuono mirrors which really change the look of the bike. They cost about $120 a pair but look great and are high quality. Visibility is much better in terms of the amount you can see and there is less vibration, highly recomended. Also fitted the Michelin Pilot Road II and have found them to be great so far. Wishing you all a very merry Xmas and New Year. P.S – just purchased a 2004 Yamaha FJR1300 (great bike) as a tourer and wanted to sell the Hornet, but I can’t do it, the bike is just to versatile to sell. The expense of 2 bikes is killing me, oh well, just have to let the house fall apart – bikes come first !!!

  522. Dave Denham  December 17th

    It was beautiful here in Clarkston, Washington today. Temp in the high 30′s (High 3′s to you southern folks), and, yes, the 919 got a quick run down the highway. Then put her away until temps start rising. Happy Holidays to all and safe riding to those down under enjoying Summer.

  523. Greynomad  December 17th

    Beautiful here today–24c, sun and blue skies–nearest snow on top of Mt. Fujiyama. Went for a solo fang to the Black Kettle at Sassafras in the hills behind Melbourne and did there ingest a skinny latte. Better latte than never! The fuel warning light came on and stayed on–no flashing-just continuous light. Set my jaw and rode the 20km back to my servo where it took 12 litres, ergo still 7 in there. Anyone else had the experience of no flashing?

    And compliments of the season to all.

  524. Larry  December 17th

    It’s horrible cold here in Michigan USA. My 06 919 is warmly tucked in for the winter. At some point before spring, I will trailer it to the dealer for a valve check. With 27,000 miles on my bike, I know that service is past due. Greynomad- Since my fuel light comes on early (with 2 gallons left), I let in come on all the time, and have never seen it flash. Keep us posted on that if you figure out why yours does that. HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO Y’ALL

  525. Wulfgang  December 18th

    Seasonal Greetings to you all for the festering period. Looks like we’re having a white Christmas here in Oxford. According to the BBC we had 8-10 inches of snow during the morning but we should expect another 25cm this afternoon? Whatever it doesn’t look like the Hornet’s going to make it out of the garage anytime soon. I did fire her up the other day lube the chain, well adjust the flow rate and top up the reservoir of the scottoiler. I thought about going for a ride but having just bought a new Radiator(The salt they use on the roads round here this time of year has an adhesive quality to it that allows it to eat motorcycles all year round,) I thought better of it switched her off and went back indoors. So I guess it’s time to curl up under the duvet and dream about epic motorcycle holidays. I had the pleasure of riding about 80% of the roads in the Pyrennes mountains October before last, which was a real treat. However the current dream if I can save enough cash is, I’d like to go to Morocco and see the High Atlas next autumn. It’s a taste of Arabian Africa and only 7 days ride from here. The downside apart from the cost of the ferries fuel and accomodation, is the bureaucratic hurdle of insurance outside the E.U. Still, not impossible but nonetheless something of a challenge. This is mostly ‘pie in the sky’ at present but quite a fun way to exercise the mind, while the weather conspires to keep me from one of the main pleasures of my life. Happy Xmas

  526. Dave Denham  December 21st

    Has anyone extended their handlebars up and back? I have an extender that moves them up 1″ and back 1″ and I’m suspecting that the clutch, brake, and throttle cables will need to be lengthened about 2″. I’m wondering if you’ve done this and where you bought the lengthened cables. TIA

  527. Greynomad  December 22nd

    G’day Dave
    I made a couple of clamp bases from 25mm aluminium. They go on top of the mounting base and raise the bars 25mm. The caps go on top in the usual way. By reason of the angle of the base,the effect is to move the fixing point back a little. Four 25mm longer Allen screws are used. I retained the existing brake, clutch and throttle lines but they were at the limit of travel. I will send an image of the block and screws to Jesper as I lack the e-skills to attach it here.

    The extra height and rearward positioning were of marginal benefit so I have reverted to standard. Yours sound better.

    It is amazing that, with all the innovation in motorcycle design, particularly from Honda, none of them offer adjustable bars, seats and pegs. Imagine a CBR1000RR you could set up to suit your build. How many cars would be sold if they did not have adjustable seats, squabs and steering wheels? Anthony Jr., there is an opportunity here.
    Happy Yuletide to all

  528. Jesper  December 22nd

    Greynomad asked me to put up this photo of the clamps for you guys to see.

    Happy holidays folks!

  529. Dave Denham  December 22nd

    Thanks GN, Jesper…..

    I’ll get the cable thing sorted out. I think 2″ extended cables should do the job, and I will go to SS braided lines. I’m coming up 1″ and back 1″. I don’t want to completely rid myself of a slight forward lean, but, as it is, I’m putting more stress on my wrists and arms than I would like.

    Happy Holidays to all…

  530. steve nolts  December 23rd


    I added risers that went 1″ up and 1 3/4″ back with the stock cables on an 07. The cables were tight but I had no problems.

    good luck

  531. ScubaJohn  December 26th

    I am interested in obtaining a fairing/windscreen for my 2007 919, and so far have had limited success. The Plexifairing GT & Plexifairing III from National Cycle seem to meet my objectives more closely than most. I remember seeing these two mentioned in previous posts, and would welcome any info regarding either one.
    By the way, Jesper, thanks for a great forum. FYI, I’m 65, love the bike, and hope to take it on a medium length tour at some point. Currently, I’m enjoying the rides in and around the hills south of my home in Agoura Hills, California.

  532. Dave  December 26th

    Hi John,
    I use the National Cycle F15, works a treat for me. This takes all the wind blast off your chest & leaves your head in clean air flow (for me anyway, i am 195 tall.)Looks good too. I did have to bend the supplied brackets a bit to make it fit. Also top quality perspex.

  533. ScubaJohn  December 30th

    Greetings, Dave, and wishes for a happy new year to you and all contributors to this forum…
    Thanks for the info on the F-15. The fact that it does, in fact, protect one’s chest is something I wanted to know…

  534. 129CBRider  December 30th

    I had the F-15 on my 919 and found it made for a more tiring ride because all the wind was directed at my shoulders instead of evenly destributed across my entire body.

    Took it off and went back to naked.
    I did put it on my Buell Blast supermoto where it actually worked like a full windshield because of the much lower seating position on that little fun thing.

  535. Dave Denham  December 30th

    I have the Plexifairing III from National Cycle and love it. I’m 5’9″ and look over it, but it protects the chest area and the hands and seems very stable at high speeds (125 mph and rock solid). No, I rarely ride at anything over 100, but passed three triple trailer rigs a couple years ago and let it hang out. I was amazed at how stable the bike was at that speed, but things can go wrong in such a hurry at that speed that I don’t recommend doing it often. The bike is capable of 150mph, but I would have to be on a race track to ever take it up that fast.

    Steve, thanks for the info on bar extenders. I will try it with the 1 up x 1 back extender, that I have, and the stock cables and see if they will work.


  536. steve nolts  December 31st


    I hope you like the risers. I had the 1″ up and 1 3/4 back and wish I had more. I also bought a Corbin seat which helped a lot. I loved the bike but had to choose between keeping it and trading it in on a new 2010 Harley Davidson Fatboy. I bought the Honda 919 in March 2010 for $6000.00. I put 2500 miles on it and got the full price of $6000.00 in trade after 2 and 1/2 months. I love the new Harley Davidson but I miss the 919 bad. I still have a 1981 Honda CB750K that I bought new in 1981 which I can throw through the curves. It is fun but not as good as the 919. I kept the Corbin seat and the risers for when I buy a used 919 to go with the Harley after I pay it off in a few years.

    Have fun and ride safe!!!!


  537. Arctic_Moose  January 6th

    Well it’s been a little over three weeks now since I laid my 06 up for the winter… man it’s going to be a long winter :O( To john I have a GIVI windshield on my bike, looks alot like the Honda oem. It takes the wind off of your belly and puts it square in your upper chest and face. Not that great for touring but is better than nothing at all. As for the fuel light coming on I believe it comes on around 247kms it stays on for a few more kms the goes out but comes back on not to long after and stays on till she’s refueled it has never ever flashed.

  538. Greynomad  January 6th

    G’day Arctic Moose
    Both mine have been flashers in the initial stages of the low fuel cycle, however reference to the manual suggests that your observation is correct.

    It says, quaintly, “Lights when there is only few fuel left in the fuel tank.” and goes on to say it happens when there is approx. 3.5 litres left. Mine is coming on too early so I will have a word with the dealer.

    I have the little Honda fly screen which deflects some wind but has you thinking about something bigger on a cold day, but we don’t ride a lot when it’s cold. Cold here is 10 celsius (50 fahrenheit).

    Doing a ride tomorrow with a friend who has just bought a Kwaka Ninja 250 in royal blue. Pretty little bike. He is still learning so no fancy riding will be undertaken. The temp here was 30 c (86 f) today and is predicted to reach 34 c (93.2 f) tomorrow.

    Cheers GN

  539. Arctic_Moose  January 7th

    I am in awe of yor more pleasant riding conditions as it was -5 celsius here on the east coast of canada. oh well three more months and I’ll haul the ole girl out of her stable and start all over again, happy motoring.

  540. Haine  January 8th

    Pretty nice post. I just stumbled upon your blog and wished to say that I’ve really enjoyed browsing your blog posts. After all I’ll be subscribing to your feed and I hope you write again soon!

  541. Larry  January 17th

    It’s the dead of freezing cold winter and my mind is drifting off to this summers motorcycle trip on my 06 919. I’ve traveled the Appalachians extensively. Rode the northeast 2 summers ago. This summer I will have more than the usual 2 weeks that I normally take in the summer. Maybe a month. You folks have any favorite trips in the U.S. that you’d like to recommend. I’m all ears.

  542. Arctic_Moose  January 18th

    Larry there’s some real nice riding through the north in New Brunswick Canada

  543. Alabama  January 23rd

    Hello all been reading all the post, and this is a great site. I pick up a 2007 919 monday morning to go with my other bikes. Ive been looking at them a while and doing some research. I have a 06 Goldwing and an 83 cb1000 custom which are both great bikes but the look of the 919 is overpowering. Thanks for all the great info Ill keep reading and enjoying the fellowship.

  544. Alabama  January 23rd

    Hey Larry you might want to look at the Keys. My wife and I rode our Goldwing down there a couple of years ago and we loved it. We would really like to go again sometime. Some really nice riding down that way.

  545. RJ  January 23rd

    Hi all,
    It is wonderful to read all the posts here though it took me 2 days staring at the laptop screen with breaks for meals, baths, prays and household chores… and riding my 919.

    I just bought the 919 2 weeks ago and loving it so much. I ride almost everyday to work with 30kms++ each way although it is very wet here in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

    I find the bike suits very well with my style of riding especially in town riding splitting lane between cars, vans and trucks…. and lane splitting here is allowed by law…. :)

    Just 1 question about the bike. Since there is no fuel gauge, how many miles/kms a tank for the niner?

    Thank you guys…

    - RJ from Malaysia -

  546. Lozza  January 24th

    Hello RJ
    I ride much like you do here in Sydney.
    Peak hour traffic is not good but a lot of bus only lanes help
    I’m a fairly conservative rider and I get 250kms before the light start to come on. Then I guess you may get another 40-50kms (fingers crossed)

  547. RJ  January 24th

    Hi Lozza,
    Malaysia is very hot and wet most of the times… Nevertheless that does not hinder me from riding my 919 almost everyday and everywhere. My car just sits at home collecting dry leaves from nearby trees.. hahaha.

    I rode a Hyosung 250cc V-Twin before (still have it now) and for a 17 litres of gas, I can go for about 350-400kms of moderate speed, mixed town riding and highways.

    For 919, I am keeping an eye on the fuel light as of now. After 2-3 cycles then I can safely estimate the fuel usage for this wonderful bike.

    I am hoping the fuel injection on the 919 helps on the fuel consumption a bit…



  548. lozza  January 24th

    Hey RJ
    Mate…If you’re worried about fuel consumption then 900cc and 4 cylinders of grunt is maybe not the way to go ha ha.
    I’ve had my bike for over a year now, I do enjoy it. I always felt that it did not have the go of the more sporty bikes. I was often left at the lights when riding to work.
    When the chain wore out I had it replaced and changed the front cog to 15 (I think..sorry I’m not very savy with the bikes technical details) Mate, it made a difference. I point the thing and open the throttle. I stops, it goes and there is never a time I wished that I had more power.

    How do you like riding in the rain? I can’t imagine that it would be a lot of fun.
    I have taken special interest in the posts of the Canadian guys. I was there skiing a few years ago. I never imagined it can get that cold.

  549. Arctic_Moose  January 25th

    300 kms is tops and you’ll be lucky if don’t run out. I’ve always get a laugh when someone tells me that I must love the great fuel mileage I must get. They’ve obviously never driven a four cylinder motorcycle with a bit of a thirst.

  550. RJ  January 26th

    The light just popped up just now during my ride to a nearby restaurant to meet some friends. The tripmeter was as 260++ kms. I guess you guys are correct… it will be between 250 to 300kms per full tank.

    What about frame sliders or crash bungs as some called them. The ones at a nearby shop were to be fix at the engine cover. I was thinking to fix the sliders at the frame near the radiator. I read that way it would not damage the engine in a slide… How do you guys fix them??

  551. Greynomad  January 26th

    Hello RJ
    A friend and I have installed frame sliders on our Hornets, on the frame near the radiator. We got lengths of 3/8 inch threaded bar long enough to go across the frame and through the sliders. We removed the plugs, drilled out the frame to fit the bar and installed the sliders with a large washer and nut each side. Locktite compound on each nut to keep the in place. So far have not tested them!

    A friend has just emailed from the north of England. It’s been snowing for 3 days non-stop. His wife has done nothing but stare through the window. He says if it doesn’t stop soon he might have to let her in.

  552. Custard  January 26th

    My late 2001 919 has just gone past the 50,000 mile mark (80,000km) and she still goes like a train! I commute the old girl every day in London and I’ve done track days at Brands Hatch! I still love this bike!

    She does approx 150 miles (240km) to a tank before the fuel light goes on, that’s with 44 miles (70km)of motorway and 20 miles (16km) of urban London each day on my ride to and from work.

    I don’t hang about either so if I ride more economically I can get up to 165-170miles (270km) to a tank.

    I’ve got crash bungs on mine, they’re mounted on the mid front engine mounting on the frame near the bottom of the radiator. It is well worth fitting them. I was unfortunate enough to lose the front once at low speed when I hit some diesel under braking and all that got lightly scratched was the silencer cowling, bar end and the hero blob on the footrest. If I didn’t have the crash bung it would have been the radiator, engine casing and tank as well.

    I ride this bike all year round in all weathers, except for snow. Fortunately we can do that in the UK if we really want to, I’d hate to have to put her away for the winter, I do feel for you guys that live in places with extreme winters. In the summer though I’m envious of those big open roads you have. Considering how old she is and the amount of salt they put on British roads in the winter the finish has held up exceptionally well.

    This is a great Blog Jesper! Oh yeah by the way, an instructor at Brands Hatch also used a 919, so the proof is in the pudding as they say. :)

  553. Dave Denham  January 26th

    A good friend of mine once told me, while bringing a can with a couple gallons of gas for my stalled car, “Denham, it doesn’t cost any more money to run on the upper 1/2 of the tank”. To this day I try to heed this advice. I figure, safely, that my hornet is good for 175 miles max(280km)figuring 35 miles per gallon. I’m basing this on reasonable cruising keeping my foot out of the carburetter (as they used to say). I try to refill at around 100 miles to be safe, as this is about as far as I want to ride without a stop for a butt rest if on a roadtrip. It’s in town that I have to be more careful as it’s easy to forget. The light is invaluable as I fill immediately when it comes on.

  554. Lozza  January 26th

    Hey Grey…
    Thanks for the belly laugh re wife outside looking in….

    I’m almost embarassed to admit this but when I first got my bike I hadn’t ridden for a very long time (body meets power pole result=bad)
    anyway mid life crisis won and I got the beast. Not having ridden in years and with such a big bike, I was very tentative.

    You know sometime you have the slope in the road. I was turning the bike around and guiding it with my foot on the ground as I was very tentative. The bloody weight of the bike got me and I couldnt hold it. While I was trying to keep it from falling over the accelerator went on. I’m sure I hit the red line and over.
    The bike reving of course attracted the eye of everybody in the vicinity.

    The bike ended up on top of me. It was frigging embarassing. What’s worse, the same thing happend to me TWICE within two weeks and at different places.
    If it wasn’t for the bungs I’m sure that some expensive damage would have resulted, but with them, no evidence whats so ever (if you don’t count the total humiliation).
    So as far as I’m concerned it’s a no brainer – put them on

  555. Alabama  January 26th

    Hey guys anybody ever attempt the “Bafflectomy” on their stock exhaust? Just curious I would like for my 07 919 to have a little deeper sound without spending 500 to 800 for an exhaust system. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Mike

  556. Arctic_Moose  January 27th

    I got an 06 919 for my wife…. it was a good trade.
    lol this doesn’t even compare with the wife looking in joke.

  557. RJ  January 28th

    I went to a friendly workshop near my office yesterday to install the frame sliders. The mechanic wanted to fix the frame sliders on the engine mounting but I asked him to fix them on the frame. He hesitated as he feared it might compromise the frame integrity and strength. Some more he need to make a custom rod to put through the frame. He showed some of other naked bikes there where all sliders are fixed on the engine.

    At the end, I did not install the sliders and went back with some feeling of dissapointment… haha.


  558. Custard  January 28th

    Hey RJ, I hope we gaven’t confused you!

    On my bike they are mounted on the engine mounting which would be the strongest point to mount them on the bike. The slider should come with a bolt long enough to replace the original mounting bolt and goes through the slider and frame where it mounts to the engine just behind the radiator.

    If you like I can take a pic of mine for reference at lunchtime and I’ll post a link.

  559. Custard  January 28th

    Here’s a link to the crash bung photo, I hope this helps.

    Please excuse the grime on the old girl, but it is the end of a week of a hard winters slog!

    Saturday mornings are always fun at this time of year, getting rid of the grime instead than going for a ride.

  560. RJ  January 29th


    Thanks a lot for the picture… That is what I meant. Your crash bungs were fixed at the correct position and that is the point that I wanted to fix mine.

    The mechanic I talked to wanted to fix the sliders at the engine case bolt located just below your crash bung.

    A good discussion can be found at

    My friend tried riding my bike 2 days ago and almost dropped the bike to its side when the engine spurred and halted during in a tight corner. Thank God he was riding it slow enough and managed to hold the bike with his right leg although the bike was leaning very far until the front blinker touched the pavement.

    Sigh… need to fix the sliders ASAP….

  561. Wulfgang  January 31st

    Hi, just been reading about crash bungs and felt I should add my two pennith.

    Firstly I’ve recently fitted the Honda genuine crash bungs(same as the ones in Custards picture) to the frame (also same place as picture) Now when I initially got the kit I was a little dissapointed as there was no thread cut in the frame for the nice big M10 s/steel bolts supplied with the kit. However after a trip to the tool shop I became the proud owner of a ratcheting tap wrench and three taps(Taper,Second and Bottom)in the requisite M10 size.
    To my continueing amazement after about half an hour sitting on the garage floor pushing very hard and twisting and remembering one whole turn in and half a turn back I had two nice clean threads to bolt my crash bungs to. Thanks mostly to Mr Chris Hawker’s Agricultural Metalwork class 76-78 Burford School that I knew how to do this. I’m pretty useful with a Heli-coiling kit aswell but that’s another story involving a CB750 and some show chrome custom bolts that really weren’t long enough.

    My second point and one that I cannot stress too highly is that it is much easier to straighten a steel frame than it is to repair fragile aluminium alloy castings. Don’t attach anything to an engine that sticks out and is supposed to absorb impact because it doesn’t it transfers the destructive energy to the very thing it claims to protect.

    Lastly Ethanol/Bio-Fuels their mixing more and more of this stuff with Petrol/Gasoline. If you get a tiny bit of water together with this green/vegetable fuel it turns to a resin like F**king glue inside your injectors/carburettors/fuel system. Keep your tanks full to prevent condensation inside the tank and run a good injector cleaner with your fuel every couple of months.

    P.S.The days are getting longer again in the Northern Hemisphere so it’s time to get ready for some beautiful spring riding.

  562. Lozza  February 1st

    Hey Wulfgang

    Thanks for the infor, very informative and very interesting.
    I had a look and mine are on the engine casing…hummm what to do now…

    Anyway your comment about the days getting longet in the Northern Hemisphere.

    Noooooooooooooooo!!!!I am noticing that the sun is rising later and setting earlier. Please don’t go Summer, please, please.

    Here in Sydney it’s 42 degrees outside today. It’s not good watching the temperature gauge climb when you are stuck in peak hour traffic but it sure as hell beats snow and ice :-) :-)

  563. RJ  February 1st

    Hi Lozza, I second you on the sunny day ride… The same case in KL and getting caught in traffic will shoot up the temp fast….
    Just got myself a Shoei Multitec to replace my 5 year old helmet. Riding in town feels very good due to the good ventilation and big air vents but I notice some wind noise although far more quieter than my SOL and MHR helmet (also flipup type).
    Planning to do some highway trip this weekend and will post comment on the Multitec…

  564. Larry  February 2nd

    Here in Michigan, USA, they’ve shut everything down in preparation for the 12-18 in (13-46cm) of snow that is starting right now. I’m wondering about the best snow tire for my 06 919. Any opinions?

  565. RJ  February 2nd

    Larry, I wish I can help you on the snow tire but it has been a while since it is snowing here in Malaysia you know.. :)

    Tomorrow is the Chinese New Year and it will be a 2-days holiday in Malaysia. I will be riding back to my hometown on my 919, mostly on highways. This will be the first long trip for me on the Hornet (700kms++ two-way trip). I hope everything will be okay…

    See you guys again soon…


  566. 129CBRider  February 2nd

    I’m in SW Florida and no snow since 1976 but Buell used the Pirelli Diablo Strada on their Ulysses. Looks to be a good all-weather tread pattern.

  567. Dave Denham  February 2nd

    I have a Multitech, and it generates a lot more wind noise than a non-flip full face. My HJC, while not nearly so handy, is considerably quieter. I really like the flip-up design, but it is not quite as strong and noisier.

  568. Wulfgang  February 2nd

    Hi Larry,
    Have you considered a snowmobile they’ve always looked like fun to me. Unfortunately we don’t get snow long enough in this neck of the woods to make them practical. Despite being further north than you, we’re spoilt by a lovely Atlantic current called the Gulf Stream which means we get to spend the winter 10-15 degrees warmer than you. However it does rain a lot and sometimes we have to wait a couple of years for a sunny day. Still look on the bright side I’m told it’s worse in Wales and Scotland and people still go there on holiday.

  569. RJ  February 4th

    I just got back this afternoon and damn tired but I cannot wipe the grinning until now. Had a blast with the 919 mostly on highways riding at 100miles/hour most of the time. My bike do not have any windscreen so it hurts at my upper body fighting the wind. And Dave is right about the Multitec. It is noisy as hell riding at that speed and without any protection from the wind. But the flip up was very handy when you are at the gas station or taking a short stop and wanted to drink without taking off the helmet.

  570. RJ  February 4th

    I also met up with a couple of superbike groups at the highway stops (we call them R&R or Rest & Repair). Most of them are riding superbikes and easy riders and there were a few with supermotos and dirtbikes too… Everyone is enjoying the 2 day holidays in conjuction with the Chinese New Year celebration here. Most of the riders came to look at the 919 since the bike is not common among the riders here in Malaysia.
    It is fun to meet the riders from all sort of background and life and yet still very friendly to chit chat and throw jokes to other fellow bikers. That spirit and the feeling of ‘brotherhood’ is not common among cagers or car drivers. And that one of the thing that makes me love riding….

  571. KiddnitrO  February 6th

    Answer to how far per you can go per tank… I set my trip odomider and when it hits 120 ((MILES)) your usually close to switching to reserve. Just a good rule of thumb…

  572. KiddnitrO  February 6th

    ***FYI*** If you keep it between 50 and 60 the ‘O2 919 will get u 50+mpg! But it is REALLY REALLY hard to keep it under 60.. somehow my hand keeps rolling back!!!!

  573. Arctic_Moose  February 10th

    I get around 33+/- miles per gallon, never have I got anywhere near 50 or 60M/G You must be some lucky if you have.

  574. Greynomad  February 11th

    I get 6 adrenalin rushes per 100 km, mostly from humiliating Harleys. No idea what she uses, but she will point the front wheel at Uranus.

    A mate left his 1983 K100 Bimmer leaning against his mum’s garage wall for over 3 years. Knowing I get a tink out of kickering with old bikes he asked me to see if it could be got going. The flattery was bat so put it on trickle charge for a week. Found the plugs in there behind that BMW panel, cleaned and set them. Decanted stale petrol from tank and replaced with fresh 98 ron. Drained and replaced juices from brakes, engine and final drive. Replaced battery, turned key and–viola, the carriage moves without horses. As Goethe might have said–’Es ist ein wunderfahrt!’

    Sorry about the unseemly nature of this entry. Have been self-medicating with a very seemly merlot.


  575. 129CBRider  February 11th

    The wine-cup is the little silver well,
    Where truth, if truth there be, doth dwell.
    William Shakespeare

  576. Wulfgang  February 11th

    Then said another with along drawn Sigh,
    My clay with long oblivion is gone dry,
    But, fill me with an old familiar Juice,
    Methinks I might recover by and bye!

    And lately, by the Tavern Door agape,
    Came stealing through the Dusk an Angel Shape
    Bearing a vessel on his shoulder, and
    He bid me taste of it, and ’twas-the Grape!

    The grape with Logic absolute
    The Two-and-Seventy jarring sects confute.
    The subtle Alchemist that in a Trice
    Life’s leaden Metal into Gold transmute.

    Omar Khayyam

  577. 129CBRider  February 12th

    I desire a little ruby wine and a book of verses,
    Just enough to keep me alive, and half a loaf is needful;
    And then, that I and thou should [ride to] a desolate place
    Is better than the kingdom of a sultan.

  578. Jorge  February 12th

    Have some Madeira m’dear
    I’ve got a small cask of it here.
    And once it’s been opened, you know it won’t keep.
    So do drink it up- it will help you to sleep.

    Michael Flanders.

  579. Jesper  February 12th

    Now that’s an unexpected turn in the conversation. Poetry….seriously? I think all your flatteries are bat. :-)

  580. Dave  February 12th

    Well guys, I have really enjoyed this blog. I like reading the postings by people who love the hornet 900, a much underated bike that really does deserve all the praise. I recently purchased a yamaha FJR1300 with the intention of pursuing a life of long distance touring around Australia. I did want to keep my hornet also, but don’t make enough to own 2 bikes and a car. So my Honda is up for sale with MUCH regret, I love that bike but the FJR is way better for the long haul. The hornet will always be a well loved bike and if i ever sell the FJR, would buy another hornet in a flash. Happy and safe riding to you all.

  581. Arctic_Moose  February 12th

    Happy comfy riding Dave

  582. PLV  February 25th

    I have toured with my 919 down from Canada all the way to Florida and back, you dont need the FJR to go cross country. I have even driven it all the way across Canada from sea to sea, apparently only the sky is the limit, although it tries to at least send one wheel up there now and then. ;0)

  583. 129CBRider  February 26th

    I’ve ridden some dirt/gravel road on mine with sport tires on it and it did fine.

    In going across Canada, were there any stretches of non-paved roads?

  584. Arctic_Moose  March 1st

    CBRider we have longest paved road in the world called the Trans-Canada Highway coast to coast more than 7699 Kms. We have lots of pavement,come on up. The roads on the east coast start to clear up from snow late March early April some nice cool riding. Gradually as spring kicks in it warms up for summer and then eventually we have beautiful fall riding. But if you desire dirt you can find some for sure.

    Now talking about dirt did any of you fellows check out that site where buddy turned his 919 into a dirt bike? He called it the XR900R wild looking dirt bike for sure.

  585. Arctic_Moose  March 14th

    Has anyone ever heard of Blue Flame exhaust? I found a web page that advertised them they look nice but I’ve never heard of them. A little input would be appreciated.

  586. ScubaJohn  March 19th

    Just like Arctic_Moose, I would appreciate any insight this forum might be able to give on motorcycle accessories. I’ve decided on a National Cycle Plexifairing GT, and was wondering whether to order direct from the manufacturer or an outside supplier. Is there any one which stands out as the most efficient and trustworthy? Thanks for any input…

  587. Showa  March 22nd

    What kind of the side bags you have on the touring photo? Do they get hot by the exhaust pipes?
    I just bought a new 2007 Candy Red 919 last week, and love the way it rides. Just need to figure out a economic way to make it a touring.

  588. Larry  March 22nd

    I travel a fair amount on my 06 919. I had to go cheap on luggage and bought a Dowco setup cheap. Tank bag, saddlebags (sport bike style) and trunk. I have 2 brothers carbon fiber exhaust that the bags lay right on with no problem. The bags have a heat shield. Also for touring, I put on a rear sprocket with 2 less teeth. The sprocket took care of a buzz that I had at about 5000 rpm, and smoothed out the higher speeds. I noticed a small loss of zip at lower speeds. I love my bike in that I can tour and do the twisties once I get to the mountains.

  589. Showa  March 23rd

    Thanks, Larry. Any sports saddlebags would work? Are those stock exhaust heat shields working fine? I am not worry about heating up the bags, but fire.

  590. Jesper  March 23rd

    I rode more than 10.000km with sports saddlebags both with stock exhausts heat shields and akrapovic mufflers with no heat shields. No problems with heat or fire ever. But put some protective vinyl film on your exhausts. The bags vibrate and “polish”/scratch your exhausts in the process. I found out the hard way. But no problem after I just put vinyl on the exhausts. Most motorcycle store have sheets of vinyl you can cut out and use to protect you bike against scratching.

  591. Dave Denham  March 23rd

    I bought most of my accessories (including the Plexifairing) from Bike Bandit, and have had very good experience dealing with them.

  592. Dave Denham  March 23rd

    You Old “Limelighter” you.

    Until the next morning whe woke up in bed.
    A smile on her lips, and an ache in her head.
    And a beard on her earlobe that ticked and said.
    “Have some Medeira M’dear”.

  593. Showa  March 23rd

    Jesper, Thank you for the info. I am set on Fieldsheer saddlebags now.

  594. Adam H  March 31st

    I love finding new sites about the CB900/919, and reading all the great comments about this fabulous machine. I have an 07 model which I bought new back in 2008 and I love the bike more and more as time goes on. All my mates scoff at me for being old (Im 31) as they have their R1s, CBRs and Ducati 848. I reckon they dont know what they are on about. My bike does everything!!! Never had a problem either. I just ordered my first mods today, Yoshi TRS Stainless Steel slipons and a PCIII USB. I cant wait to try them out.
    I will never sell this bike. I plan to ride it until it turns to dust.

  595. 129CBRider  March 31st

    Dust? HAHAHA…ain’t gonna happen…Honda’s run FOREVER!

    I would buy stock in a tire company though if you are seriously going to try, lol.

  596. Wayne  April 10th

    HI Guys, I passed the Uk test in 2009 and bought a used Hornet 900 as my first bike.I loved it she was gorgeous.If i had aproblem it was she was heavy up top and balance was key, however when i got used to it,she was fun!!! I have now relocated to Canada and fondly wish for another.For a brand new rider it was challenging but soon after rewarding.Having said that they are few and far between and I am stuggling to find another here. My rating 4 out of 5 stars. Its a nimble fun ride!!!!

  597. Arctic_Moose  April 11th

    Wayne they’re here just not for sale much…and why would they be?
    Just gave mine an oil change and filter adjusted the chain & lubed it,checked ‘er all over fluids,air etc.
    then off for a little scat ohhh I love spring. Odom. says 13007kms we’ll see what she says in October.

  598. Dave Denham  April 12th

    Has anyone installed Kuryakin ISO 7/8″ grips for sport bikes on their Hornet? I’m thinking that these would elevate the comfort level, but don’t know how well they would fit. Any ideas would be appreciated.

  599. Dave Denham  April 14th

    I moved my bars back 1″ and up 1″ with an extender and love the way they feel. They remove a little body weight from the wrists and make it more comfortable. They still give you a slight lean angle so you still feel very much in control of the bike. I didn’t have to change any of the cables. The front brake is the only one a little snug, but it doesn’t seem overly tight and works just fine. I may go to the Kuryakin grips, but was in hopes that someone else had done that and could give me their opinion. It’s starting to be Spring here in Clarkston, Washington, and the roads are calling. Here’s to ALL having a great 2011 motorcycle season. Be safe.

  600. Greynomad  April 14th

    Dear Gentlepersons
    For those seeking to get comfortable this site offers some interesting comparisons–

    It is possible to superimpose one bike over another and flick from bike to bike, and to vary the height and rake of the bars to the position which best suits you.

    Doing a ride in Nth. Vietnam in November with 2 cousins. We will be on Honda Future X 125 bikes which look good. Can’t wait!!

  601. Bill  May 1st

    Enjoyed reading all the enthusiastic reviews about the Honda 919. I bought mine back in November 2009. I had been looking at it for several years but could not afford it. I watched the warehouse stock go down to zero and that’s when I threw away my brochure. Thought I’d never own one. Then a year later I walked into a Honda dealership and saw a new 919 that had just been assembled. It was like Heaven shined down from above! I convinced my wife it was meant to be. I got my dream bike! It has been awesome. Some of the features I added to it are Biker Buddy headlight flasher and a brake light flasher for safety purposes. I’ve been looking for an engine cage and while watching Stealth Rider with Jason Britton, he was modifying his new stunt bike with an engine cage built by Freestyle Ingenuity. I called the company to see if they made one for 919. They did not. I asked if I could get a number to contact the man who builds them, “Tom”. He said over the past 8 years he’s only had requests for about 6. So I thought if I might get enough interest from other 919 owners that they might build an engine cage. Anyone interested, please check out Jason Britton’s website It seems like a good product and hopefully we can get enough requests for this product that they will make it available for the 919.

  602. Arctic_Moose  May 3rd

    AH 300kms today nice little jaunt. I love spring. A little cool but nice day as it warmed up through the day.

  603. Arctic_Moose  May 18th

    O.K. have we lost all the 919ers of the world? It’s been raining here for three weeks now with the odd dry day. So I took the down time to order a new set of Carbon Fiber TRS Yoshimuras. I got them from biohazard I first tried them without the removeable baffles, it was alot louder than stock. But the bike seemed to be on the verge of back firing when I’d let off the gas quickly, and lol I wasn’t used to hearing my bikes exhaust. So I installed the baffles and no more verge of backfiring and it also drowned out alot of the exhaust sound, almost back to stock levels.
    So now do I go back to loud and almost backfiring or do I stay with the almost stock sound and no gurgling on the verge of kapow?
    There may be a need of a power commander and a dyno test to smooth the non baffled version. But I may have to wait for my money tree to grow another limb. Any how I’m hoping to get another ride in the sun in soon. Keep the right hand cranked fellow riders.

  604. custard  May 18th

    It has been quiet hasn’t it? Maybe everyone in the Northern Hemisphere’s been busy enjoying the first weeks of spring? Here in the South East of England it hasn’t rained for two months! So I’ve definitely been enjoying the spring weather.

    One day I wouldn’t mind a new set of pipes. There’s a guy I see on my ride to work on a 919 with a pair of Akraprovic race cans, sounds gorgeous.

    I’ve just experimented with cutting fuel consumption and I’ve managed to save approx 3 litres of fuel per week by upping the front sprocket by one tooth. Now that unleaded is approx £1.40 per litre in the UK that’s saving me over £4 per week. By the end of the year that’s the price of a set of new tyres!

    As I do 40 miles per day doing 80mph+ it means that I run at 5000rpm instead of 6000rpm it seems to make a massive difference. I don’t know if it would make that much difference doing urban riding only though.

    The downside is I lose a little bit of the initial wizz of acceleration from standstill but I do gain some torque at higher speed. I’d rather have this compromise than replace my 919 with more economical bike!

    Happy riding everyone!

  605. custard  May 18th

    Damn, I spoke too soon, it’s absolutely chucking it down now! A wet ride home for me!

  606. 129CBRider  May 19th

    Alas, my 919 is locked in my storage shed up in the Smokey Mountains and I’m stuck in SW Florida with only my 1981 XT250 to tool around on…drats!

  607. Larry  May 19th

    We are drenched with rain here in Michigan, USA. I’ve gotten an occasional ride in, but yearning for more. My 2 brothers exhaust sound great when they are freshly packed, but after 4,000 miles or so start getting a little too loud for me. I only had the stock mufflers on for about a week when I first got the bike (about 26,000 miles ago, a 2006), and didn’t like the lack of any sound at all. Last year, when the packing really went out on the 2 brothers, I put the stock mufflers back on. I really missed hearing my bike. I hardly knew when to shift. The 2 brothers went back on, and I think I will just be in the habit of repacking them every winter. I’ve had a lot of bikes over the years, and except for my lovely little Moto Guzzi V7 sport, I’ve had my 919 the longest. I have no desire to switch. This bike really suits me well! Ride on.

  608. Larry  May 19th

    Artic Moose, make sure that you put some hi temp sealer between the exhaust pipe and the muffler. (where it slips on). That could be the backfiring.

  609. Arctic_Moose  May 27th

    Well the baffles are back out. I am loving the fact I can hear the exhaust,not to loud just enough. And although it does gurgle a little when letting off I’ve not had a full out backfire as of yet.
    I must say this has so far been the wettest weather I remember in a long time.
    Please send some sun for us here in southern NewBrunswick Canada.

  610. stevenolts  June 10th

    Do any of you guys use Redwing boots for riding??? What model#

  611. stevenolts  June 10th

    Do any of you wear Joe Rocket Blaster perforated leather pants?? Are the only good for when its over 70

  612. stevenolts  June 10th

    Well I just missed out on getting back in the game the other day. I went to the Honda dealer here in St Louis to look at a 2007 919 with 3500 miles. (the first one I have seen since last July)It was sold. They told me they got $5500.00 for it. (is that a good price)

    I traded my 2007 919 last July 5 (my 50th birthday) for my 2010 Fatboy. I planned on getting another 919 as soon as I could afford it.

    I love my Fatboy but really miss the 919. All I can do every day at work is look at the internet. I am looking at either another 919 (I saved my Corbin seat from the last one) or a Yamaha FZ1. I am leaning towards the Honda 919. (Since I sold my 919 last July this was the first one available in St Louis, MO)

    What do you guys think??? Tell me why I need to get another 919 over the FZ1. I read all the info on the internet (but that is all based on which bike the writer has)

  613. Greynomad  June 14th

    G’day Stevenolts

    2007 models are on the market here for $4700 to $7900, depending on odo reading and condition. A reading of 3500 miles is pretty low so it would be at the top end of the market. Interesting that your prices still seem to be better than ours. When I blogged on 14/2/2009 (we put the month after the day) a new Hornet 900 could be had here for $9990 AU, and in the US for $6559 US. Our dollar was then worth 66c US. Ours is now worth $1.07 US but we are still paying more for new bikes than you. Even allowing for the economies of scale (there are 22 million of us and 300 of you)the discrepancy remains unexplained.

    I wear Aussie Blundstone boots to ride. When these are worn out I won’t buy any more because they have moved manufacturing to China.

    Anyone watching the Moto GP? Honda is blitzing the rest.

    Neighbour rang the doorbell at 2.30 am! Lucky for him I was still up playing the bagpipes.

  614. Lozza  June 15th

    Hey Greynomad

    I think that Casey Stoner is doing the job.
    Go Aussies

  615. Arctic_Moose  June 16th

    $5500 I would say is about right. Here in Canada the 919 was not a huge seller, most people in these parts are more interested in the all sport full fairing models or the all out cruiser. The bike I bought was originally priced at $11,500 but they put it on sale for $8000. It was a left over 06 an I bought it new in 08.
    As for the FZ1 I have test rode one and it is one mean bike with lots of get up and go, very nice bike. Price was the difference for me but don’t get me wrong I love my 919. It’s a great ride :O)

  616. ScubaJohn  June 21st

    Thanks,Greynomad,for having convictions about buying products from a country that needs us now, but will not hesitate to slice our throats when we need them more than they need us. Hopefully,I am wrong, but I fear that I’m correct.

  617. 129CBRider  June 21st

    Haha…not with all the money we owe them!

  618. Greynomad  June 23rd

    Just had a Michelin Pilot Road 2 180/55 ZR 17 fitted to the rear of the Suzuki to match the front. Both bikes are now shod with these tyres which have proved to be right for my style of riding.

    Scubajohn, my objection to Chinese manufactured goods is that they exploit a captive workforce— reprehensible for an ostensibly communist country. The west has allowed corporations to export manufacturing, and the wealth which accompanies it, to keep a lid on inflation and to disempower the trade unions. We do not even make shoes here any more. It is a dangerous state of affairs which now needs to be gradually reversed, first by requiring the Chinese to revalue the Yuan, which is held at artificially low levels. How else could I buy a new Sachs Madass for less than $3000 on the road!

  619. ScubaJohn  June 23rd


  620. Greynomad  July 9th

    Gday Lozza
    Casey Stoner can ride, but apparently had tyre pressure problems at Mugello. There’s no shame in being beaten by Jorge Lorenzo, and Yamaha do make great machines. I had a little SRV 250 cafe racer for a while which was quite fast and had the sweetest engine. It was good to see Ben Spies pilot his Yamaha to victory at Assen. He seems like a nice bloke who has had some unlucky breaks.

    Went for a ride yesterday. Two bucks came up alongside at a red traffic light. I can report that neither a late model Triumph Bonneville, nor a Ducati 749 can hold a candle to the Hornet in a sprint.

  621. Arctic_Moose  July 19th

    Greynomad it’s good to see you still visit this site. I do miss all the banter of everyone’s rides and the pure enjoyment of riding.

  622. 129CBRider  July 19th

    Umph! My 919 is locked in a shed up in the mountains so I bought a 2000 Kaw ZR-7 to play around on until I can get back to the Honda.

    Sadly, as nice as the ZR-7 is, it is not the 919 as the Kaw (only) had 74 hp when it was new so I am missing that Hornet’s growl and easy triple digit capability not to mention the Honda’s all-day seat.

    I have to admit that the ZR-7 will hold a line through a corner like nothing else I’ve ever ridden even though the forks and shock are almost exactly like the 919′s.

  623. Jorge  July 20th

    Well it is now a month since winter solstice and down south it is noticeable that days are getting longer. I failed in my pledge to get to 100000kms on my Hornet/919,reaching 40000kms. I’ve now bought Hornet number 4. Since they aren’t making new ones, I got a 2005 with 15000kms on the clock. That’s a low mileage here. It arrived on a truck from a town about 400kms away. In (southern) summer I would have ridden it back. I had it serviced and checked at the local dealer down south and I’m about to find out whether it’s any good.

  624. Arctic_Moose  July 20th

    129CBrider that’s too bad about the 919 but still very kool that you’re about zoomin’ around on another ride. The ZR7 looks almost like the 919 I’d never heard of it before. It reminds me of the z750s also but no fairing.

  625. 129CBRider  July 20th

    They are very similar except that the 919 is light years ahead in the engine department with it’s infallible fuel injection.

    The boxed steel swingarm on the Kaw I think is right off a KLR650.

    While the 919 is very sensitive to rider input especially in the twisties where you can stand it up and change your line, the ZR feels planted once you get leaned over in a curve. You have to muscle it to change direction.

    I’m considering taking the old Z (45,500 miles on it now)down to the local Honda shop and see if they’ll take it in trade for a new CBR250R!

  626. Jorge  July 21st

    Overall I’mm happy with the bike. It has Metzeler tyres which react a bit more sensitively than the Avons on Hornet three, but feel grippy and confidence-inspiring. By the end of my ride I preferred them. The bike was road tested by City Honda in Palmerston North (New Zealand) who were happy with it. Although the mileage is low, I must admit to thinking I took a risk in buying having seen only photos. At any rate I got away with it and it’s mint. It was no surprise that the power band is totally even and predictable. It does feel marginally tighter than Number 3 Hornet when shifting gears but otherwise it’s virtually the same bike.
    My other bike is a V-Strom 650 which I keep in Australia for expeditions with Aussie friends. It’s more economical than the Hornet, but home here in Auckland the bulk of my riding is day to day city use for which the Hornet shines for it’s manouverability, flexibility and grunt, all the reasons I keep riding them, except for one- cost. I paid NZ$6200 for this one with no on road costs, against the asking of around NZ$14000 for a new 650 twin, say the V-Strom or a Kawasaki Versys.

  627. Jorge  July 26th

    As a season extender. I have put on the Slipstreamer windshield for the winter. I haven’t used it for the last couple of winters because it’s too noisy at speed, but my memories of riding comfortably through hail prevailed.Combine that with heated grips and it’s a year round ride. Yes it does ruin the superbly balanced look of the bike. And yes it’s a compromise, but the Slipstreamer comes off and the Givi screen goes back on in spring.

  628. Arctic_Moose  July 29th

    That’s pretty kool Jorge about the Slipstreamer that would come in nicely around here in early spring and late fall. I’m afraid I would need chains though to be able use it all winter.

    The only reason I bought a brand new bike was the price of it. Nothing else in its size or capability was even close in price range I love it.

  629. mark  August 11th

    hope some 1 can help me here i just got my hornet 900 2002 model
    it has standard pipes on the back
    now my question is
    a friend of mine has a fazer f63 (08 model i think)
    he has a spare set of pipes and said he’ll sell to me for a cheap price
    would they fit on my bike like just replace mine for them or would i have to try my hand a modding a few things to get them to fit
    or am i way off and have little or no chance
    any help/advice is well received

  630. Arctic_Moose  August 15th

    Try drying fitting them in place and measure the diameter of the pipe inlet, but there could be clearance issues. If he’s your friend he should let you try dry fitting them in place before you buy.

  631. PatRiot  September 8th

    Hello fellow Hornet fans. I just bought an ’05 919 about 4 months ago and I love this bike. Being an old middleweight sportbike fan, my last bike was a ’93 CBR600F2, which I almost killed myself during a horrific crash in October 1994. I used to roadrace in the early 90′s on my ’87 Hurricane, so when I moved to the F2 the difference between the F1 and F2 was amazing. 16 years later, and a wife and 2 kids later, I found myself wanting a new bike bad. I am still very fond of the full fairing sportbikes, but knew my wife would not go for that. I was first looking at the 599, but after reading reviews on both the 599 and 919, the 919 sounded more appealing for various reasons, the first being fuel injection. I live in Texas and the 919s are more available than the 599s, which was another contributing factor. I finally found a beautiful 2005 with Sato full twin exhaust, super clean with less than 6,000 miles on it, for $4,300. In the end due to title issues with the bike it cost me $4,500, but it was a steal nonetheless. I had to drive 100 miles from Dallas to Tyler just to look at the bike and drove it home that day. Since it had been 16 years since I had ridden a bike that far, the trip home was brutal. Not only did I have a jacket that was not built for highway speeds, but I had no gloves and had to pull over repeatedly to recover before pushing on. During that trip home I going a steady droning 80 mph most of the way, I began to immediately have thoughts of selling the bike and even figured I might make a cool $1,000 selling it in the more vibrant Dallas, TX market. I didn’t though, and now I can hardly imagine selling it. I do like the new CB1000R, but my wife would not approve since it has the crappy passenger strap instead of the grab handle. Last night on my way home from taking a night course at our community college, I rolled up on a Repsol Honda labeled CBR600. He waved and started to get on it. I downshifted and jolted ahead, and he never attempted to over take after that. :) It was an awesome feeling, and those Sato twin carbon pipes sound so mean. That bike is such a sleeper until I hit the higher RPMs, then the other bikes have to double take. I love the Jekyll and Hyde personality of the bike, it is not the head turner that the pure sport bikes are to the average person, but those that know bikes can’t stop starring at it. I wish I could post a pic on here of my bike, it is the metallic black gloss paint, and I have never seen another like it in person. I am very happy with my purchase, and expect to keep this bike a long time. BTW, I’m getting between 40 and 47 miles per gallon, usually in the 45mpg range. Do you guys have estimates for what your gas mileage is on your 919s? Peace out!

  632. herb wilson  September 16th

    Just bought 2007 919. Great bike, two issues.
    1. Wind protection.Over 75 on trips gets tiring .Not too big, not too small. Recommendations.

    2. Seems very throttle sensitive..road bumps often result in very small motion of right hand which translates to acceleartion or the reverse. Adjustment or recommendations ?


  633. Greynomad  October 4th

    Beautiful here today, 22C and blue skies. Did a ride of about 200km with a friend who also rides a 900 Hornet. Up to Warburton, across the Reefton Spur to Taggerty and back home via the Black Spur. The Reefton Spur runs through the forest which was burnt out on Black Saturday in 2009. Many of the eucalypts have died since the fire and are now shedding bark onto the road. It can be hazardous if it’s wet and you hit it while banked over in a corner. The two Spurs can be seen on Google Earth. Bit like the Tail of the Dragon over there Stateside. Cheers to all from Oz. GN

  634. 129CBRider  October 9th

    600′s haven’t a chance if the 919 is well ridden.

  635. herb wilson  October 10th

    Bought an almost mint 919 two months ago. Less than 1000 miles and a red beauty. The guy had bafflized it and I have to say that it gets “droney” at steady highway speeds. I would not recommend that answer. Also agree with the comment that the sensitive throttle tends to cause unwanted speed changes when on a bumpy road.

    That aside, this replacement for my VFR, while not the bike the VFR was over 100, is a great torquey monster starting as low as 2200 rpm. The VFR was nothing until 4000 rpm.

    The stock seat was awful and the Corbin the guy put on is still hard as a rock but much much better–except NO bungey attachments. For 600+ Corbin should be ashamed.

    ride safe.

  636. Arctic_Moose  October 25th

    touchy throttle is because of the fuel injection. comes on hard and goes off the same way unless you ease it in the preferred direction. Sadly my season is coming to an end very soon.
    And Givi has a nice windshield that brings the wind up off your bellybutton to more your chest area. and looks good

  637. oddtodd  December 8th

    Hi all,
    Me too! I am totally with the 919′s awesomeness. I have an 02 matte black 919 that I got used with 275 miles on it. I also have a few other bikes so I’m with Jesper (thnx for the site) as far as ride and let ride. I also have an 07 990 SuperDuke that is no slouch in the awesomeness dept, either. When I got the SD I just couldn’t part with my 919 and I am so glad I kept it. If any of you guys ever want to ride the Ozarks let me know and I’ll try to meet up with you.
    PS. Where can I get the seat refurb thing done?

  638. Greynomad  January 2nd

    Hot here at present–35C (95f) today. Took the Hornet to Lilydale and flew a Jabiru up over the Black Spur where I usually ride. Took 20 minutes to cover the same distance it takes an hour for earthlings to traverse. The Hornet had not been out for a while but started and ran flawlessly as ever.

    My wife attends a number of doctors–I wait in the waiting room. They all leave the purchase of magazines to the (female) receptionists. Great if you are into soft furnishings, cookery and fashion, but not for the hairy chested. I have been engaging in subversive activity. I take a bag of read motor bike mags with me and leave them in the waiting room. Next time we go they are well thumbed, so a niche market is obviously being catered for.
    Happy New Year to all.

  639. 129CBRider  January 26th

    Corbin seats are notoriously hard and even tho they say to wait until they are broken in, they stay that way forever.

    I don’t think anyone at Corbin rides any farther than the corner bar, lol.

    I recently put a Slip Streamer Spitfire Windshield on my 2003 919 and it makes a big difference at Interstate speeds while not affecting line of site because it clamps to the handlebars and is adjustable up and down.

    It also keeps the cold wind off of your chest and thighs extending the riding season to year round down here in SW Florida.

  640. Arctic_Moose  January 28th

    Happy 2012 fellow 919er’s. I’m having some hard core withdraws. I can’t wait for winter to be over so I can get that right hand twisted. Glad to see you’re stilling sharing your posts Greynomad. keep em coming.

  641. Greynomad  January 30th

    For the first time the Hornet refused to start a couple of days ago. A friend and I were riding to Taggerty, about 100km. The bike hadn’t been started for about a fortnight and the battery would not turn it over. Roll started her and rode to the dealer, thinking that a new battery was needed. He tested the alternator and it was charging fine. He suggested we do the ride and see how it went. We did and there has been no further problem. The battery is the original one, and as the bike was a 2006 build it has done well to get to 2012. There is a slight drain while they sit in the garage, with the security and other systems so it is worth putting them on trickle charge if they will not be used for a while. Doesn’t happen often here as our weather is so mild we can ride year round.
    Will give the right hand a twist for you Moose old son.

  642. Arctic_Moose  February 13th

    Thanks for the battery tip Greynomad.I envy your 12 month riding weather, but glad a fellow 919 rider gets to enjoy it.
    Could I interest you in some snow?

  643. 129CBRider  February 17th

    When I had to leave my 2003 919 in a shed up near The Dragon for 14 months I made the mistake of leaving the battery connected and it finally died a permanent death. New reasonably priced gel battery with Parts Unlimited label on it and the bike fired right up. Praise to fuel injection and fuel stabilizer! So far in 15K miles the battery has been the only service besides brakes, tires (rear), & one chain.

    I ride ‘briskly’ most days and marvel at the depedability of the 919, day in day out, rain or heat or cold or high altitude.

    Only bike I have (10) that will go from sea level to a mile high without knowing the difference!

    Day to day maintenance usually consists of chain oil and wiping the bugs off the headlight and front forks!

  644. Greynomad  February 21st

    Just helped a mate fit a new Stebel air horn to his Hornet. Not making as powerful a sound as expected so it must need adjusting. Anyone else tried it?

    On 19th Feb. it was 70 years since the surprise Japanese bombing raid on Darwin in 1942, by the same battle fleet which did Pearl Harbour. The US destroyer USS Peary was among the ships sunk that day. The crew showed rare courage, the forward guns still firing at the bombers as she sank by the stern. An old friend was at the wharf when the raid started. The sea was covered with burning oil, sailors struggling in the water. He and others went out in small boats and rescued many of them while the raid was in progress. Aussies of my vintage can remember what the US did for us, particularly in the Coral Sea battle which turned the tide of war at great cost in American lives. Thanks buddies!

    Sorry Jesper, I have strayed off the motorcycle point a bit.


  645. Greynomad  March 14th

    The problem with the airhorn has been sorted out and it now gives a full-blooded roar. Sounds like a Mack Pantechnicon approaching. I could have used it a couple of weeks ago when a BMW convertible suddenly veered into my lane in front of me without indicating. I was able to brake and steer away without hitting him but it curdled my hormones. I wear a helmet camera and caught the whole thing on video. Not much comfort if you are lying injured in rehab. but useful if you have to prove your case in subsequent civil ptoceedings for damages.

    Take care out there brothers.

  646. Larry  March 24th

    Winter broke early here in Michigan, USA, and I’ve got my 06 919 back on the road. I’m still enjoying my heated grips, and also this winter I sent my seat to Spencers seat place in Florida, and good old Spencer cut out a chunk of the so called padding and replaced it with a way more comfortable core. $75.00. I have a 39 mile ride each way to work and my butt is much happier. I just turned 30,000 miles, and still really love this bike. I don’t know yet where, but a long trip is in store for this summer. Regards to y’all.

  647. Arctic_Moose  April 11th

    any of you fellas have your valves set, and if so what was your mileage?
    i believe it says 26k km but not sure

  648. wulfgang  April 19th

    Hi,hope you’re all well, been absent for awhile Bike’s still running fine did have to charge the battery for the first time this year. Not to bad for an original on a 02 bike though. Concerning checking and adjusting valve clearances did mine around 25,000miles and only had to adjust three out of sixteen as they had tightened a little. I don’t recommend doing this job yourself unless you have had plenty of experience with this or cylinder heads of a similar type. The potential for an expensive disaster is large…
    On to another subject Helmet cameras (well remote cameras in my case as the lense is seperated from the recording unit by an umbilical cord.) I bought one last year as I was going down to visit a friend on the south coast of Spain. They’ve some pretty special roads down there one of which is known as the Ronda Road. It’s used quite regularly for bike launches and was described as the best public highway to ride a motorcycle on by Damon Hill. Many years ago when I met him he was just another bike courier working in early 80′s London albeit with a late famous father who had been an F1 world champion. It was quite a surprise that he went on to repeat his fathers success and of course at that time it caused a considerable upswelling of national pride to have a British F1 World Champion. Anyway now when he has something to say (through the media magazines, tv etc. he doesn’t call me personally.) I tend to take him seriously. So five or so years ago I had the chance to ride this almost legendary piece of Blacktop. I wasn’t disapointed 49kms down the side of a mountain and 49kms back up. Exhilarateing, exhausting and maybe a touch of petrolhead euphoria an addict and his drug who knows? I’m mindful now of Marx and his comment about religion being an opiate. Whatever it is some human activties set off a chain reaction of chemical changes in our heads and make us feel good. Riding bikes has that effect on me and I wanted to share the experience. So, last easter I filmed it and you can view the results on you tube by typing in vongrylofen to google or a you tube search then clicking on the best road in the world. I would like to say that if you do watch it the sound quality isn’t bad so it’s worth plugging in the headphones and. If you view it via the small box on the screen it appears like some deranged rollercoaster ride but, if you got to fullscreen, progress is alltogether more sedate and somewhat less alarming for the unitiated. There’s a couple of hairy moments and some grand scenery and a small prize for the first person to get the correct time and number of goats that make an unscheduled appearance. A good bottle of single malt or a decent bottle of spanish brandy P&P incl. to any location that does not prohibit such. Hope you all continue to enjoy riding your Hornet’s/919′s

    Cheers Wulfgang

  649. Greynomad  May 7th

    Awesome video Wulfie. The resolution is better than mine which is a Mini DV about the size of a thumb. I have put a 6 gig card in place of the original 2 gig. The limiting factor is the battery which will run it for about 1.5 hours.

    The drivers of the cars stuck behind the grey bus would have loved to have the Hornet’s zip. I have not been game to drive in Europe or Canada/US as I feel if put under pressure I would instinctively veer left to ‘safety’. Do you feel comfortable changing sides?


    Yours has a throaty sound. Have you put a set of pipes on it?

  650. NUCYM  May 11th

    Well boys, I’m back. Moved from Upstate NY back to Chattanooga were I can ride most of the year (it also lets me see my wife and daughter more often too). Latest change to the 919 was to put 2 oz. of Dyna beads into each tire and removed the external wheel weights. The little ceramic beads really work. No balencing problems with the tires and it might be me just buying into the advertising but the tire is wearing less. Nice to catch up with all your posts. Next mod will be to the seat for longer riding. I appreciate all the posts on the subject. Best regards.

  651. arctic_moose  August 6th

    Wow sumer is half over here but what a sumer it has been. I picked up a nail in my rear tire forcing me to replace it. So I changed them both I put the same type back on the Dunlop roadsmart sportmax. I had over 10k kms on them I could of finished the season if it wasn’t for the nail. I love my 919. How has everyone else been?

  652. wulfgang  August 24th

    Hello Mr Nomad,
    Sorry for the lateness of my response been the silly season workwise the last few months and still trying to tidy up the legal and financial ramifications of my second marriage. Should’ve known better at my age,’She’ was an impulse purchase A Russian U-Boat commanders daughter in High heels & a thong. Looked like a Bond villain’s Mistress. Turned out to be Russian gangster’s/entrepreneur floosie, unfortunately he’d been retired by ‘Chechnian Bandits’ on the Moscow ringroad and she was looking for a safer place to live a passport and divorce settlement. Ah well! Next time I’ll be sensible and by a Ducati instead.
    Thanks for your compliments on the filmclip, there should’ve been another rider on a another hornet in front of me but it pissed with rain for the entire 10 days I was down there, total bloody washout. Ended up filming this as the beginning of my journey up to Bilbao to catch the ferry home. With regard to the quality, YouTube’s reproduction is not a patch on what I get watching it directly from the memory card. When I find a site that doesn’t compress the files I’ll upload it and let you know. The battery life issue is one that I’ve solved with a 12v acc.socket and spare batteries for this and the stills camera.
    Driving on the other side of the road? You know I think I worried about it more before I did it and it’s definitely easier on a bike than in a car. The places that catch you out are the quiet roads after stopping for food or petrol etc. You pull out automatically onto what you consider to be your side of the road. You don’t do it for long and you don’t do it again. The brain’s a wonderful thing it adjusts itself everso quickly. Roundabouts or Traffic circles take a little while to get confident with before you can opt for the route of least deviation and to hell with the natives method prefered by an ex-London M/C courier.
    Now finally to the pipes and the throaty sound. Was going to say that this is a trade secret coupled to an exotic exhaust system crafted from Mithril and Unobtanium by moonlighting members of an F1 team. The truth is standard pipes a remote condenser mike, a balled pair of socks (put the mike inside), a lot of duct/gaffer tape and put it as close to exhaust outlet as you can without dangling it in the wind. Also think the panniers and other luggage helped create a quiet wind noise free area around the back of the bike.
    Am about to replace the silencers and catalyst as they’re becoming quite corroded. Will let you know how I get on as expecting large parcel to arrive in the post fairly shortly (No jokes about mail order brides please)
    Cheers Wulfie

  653. NUCYM  October 14th

    Well, it’s been a busy summer. I have ridden some but, not enough; I am planning to take a lot of vacation in the 4th quarter to make up. It will have to be local though because I spent a ton on new tires for three trucks and one SUV. I met my older sister in Arkansas and gave her my 2003 Buel Blast, she’s 55 and suddenly decided she wanted to ride. She took the MSF course and I think she will be OK. I put new tires on it and went over it thouroghly. She says it’s what she wants. I just noticed, are there no women 919 fanatics?

  654. Arctic_Moose  November 15th

    summer has ended and now autumn is almost gone. oh I love Canada but I do envy the year round riders.
    I have a slight problem with my bike I’ve lost my tail lights and my park lights for my rear signals. but I still have flashers brake light and license plate light any advice. I have checked all the fuses they are all good even the main bike fuse. I did have a tail light out so I removed the rear cowl. after which I turned the lights on and voila no tail lights. I did check for a loose connections but didn’t find any.
    On a different note dam this site has been awfully quiet :(

  655. Mark  December 23rd

    It is without absolute sadness that I let you guys know that Greynomad passed away about a week ago. He mentioned several times that he had a ‘friend with a hornet’ and that friend was me. He was an amazing individual that I had the pleasure of knowing for only a few years.

    He never shared much about himself on this blog, but I will tell you now that he was a man of many talents and interests and had a brilliant mind. His Honda Hornet 900 was displayed at his funeral yesterday where over 200 guests celebrated and remembered his amazing life.

    It chokes me up to write this, because I doubt I will ever meet such a generous and giving gentlemen. And he was tragically taken from us far too soon due to exposure to asbestos many years ago.

    I hope that you all have a safe Christmas and New Year, and that you appreciate the time you have with loved ones, because you never know when that time will end.

  656. Mark  December 25th

    It it WITH absolute sadness….

  657. Jorge  January 4th

    Happy New Year for 2013. Having completed a stirring ride around Northland, I did my usual look around with a view to change the Hornet for something different, for the heck of it. Ducati? Triumph? The result is the same this year. I can’t bear to part with it. Bike magazine UK now rates the bike as a Superb second hand buy. It’s interesting the way things change.

  658. Larry  January 6th

    Happy Holidays, all from Michigan, USA where my 06 919 awaits better weather

  659. Larry  January 6th

    put a comma between all and from

  660. Larry  January 6th

    take the comma out after holidays. Sorry, too much holiday cheer!

  661. Jesper Bram  January 29th

    Sorry to hear that, Mark. May he rest in peace.

  662. Larry  February 9th

    I just read the note from Mark about Greynomad. I’ve been reading his comments for a number of years and it was easy to tell that he was a fascinating fellow. My heart goes out to his friends and family. He will be missed.

  663. lewisham_phil  February 10th

    I’ve just spent a few evenings reading through and enjoying this blog; although it has gone rather quiet, and all but ceased to be, it is still a source of some very useful information, and inspiration, for a new 900 Hornet owner. It was quite a shock, and very saddening to read of the death of Greynomad; he was particularly entertaining, and actually older than me. I hope I am still able to ride when I’m in my seventies.
    I’ve been riding for thirty years, but don’t change bikes very often. So getting the Hornet is quite an event. At the moment for commuting around London, the 900 looks like a good bet (currently on a ZZR600; I thought the 600 Hornet might be a bit gutless)). I just need some nice cans (for alerting pedestrians, officer), crash bungs, and tax.
    I have to confess, I have gone out on to the drive just to admire my new purchase. It is a fine motorbike. And it’s black!
    So to Jesper, Jorge, Wulfgang, cbrider, Custard and others, and of course Greynomad, thanks for the insights and entertainment. Take care.

  664. lewisham_phil  February 11th

    Nice video Wulfgang, but for the life of me I can’t spot the goats. Unless you’re talking about an old goat in the Galloper at 24:20!
    What a great ride. We used to head down to the Alps every year to do the Passes; I prefer the consistent sweeping bends of your Rhonda road though, but not the wet/dry surface.

  665. Jorge  February 14th

    For some reason my computer doesn’t flag updates the way it used to. So I missed the passing away of Greynomad, a senior and much respected contributor. I had hoped that I would meet the erudite man on one of my trips to Melbourne but it wasn’t to be. A serious loss. Sincere condolances to Greynomad’s family.

  666. Arctic_Moose  April 8th

    R.I.P Greynomad

  667. Arctic_Moose  May 20th

    has anyone had their valves set at the 26000 km mark and if so how wore were they and how long did the service take?

  668. Weeds  May 23rd

    Just went and got my valves checked at 38,ooo miles. Thought I waited to long but guess not. They’re all still within specs. Took Honda one day and they gave me a list of the sixteen readings. 135 clams well spent for piece of mind. Oil and filter change every 3,000 and a new set of Power Pures every 7,000.
    I miss my 72 commando combat but I don’t see ever getting rid of the 919 unless it’s for a newer one. 32,000 miles would probably be a safe bet unless you hear something in there your not comfortable with.
    Cheers from Northern Illinois.

  669. Arctic_Moose  June 9th

    wow a $135 they are trying to rape me here then as they want $80 an hour and they tell me it’s a 4-6 hr job. The bike still sounds fine but I’d like to make sure.

  670. 129CBRider  June 14th

    The 919 is made to last. That’s why they de-tuned it down from 125 hp so you wouldn’t have to do anything but replace the chain/sprocket/tires/brakes/oil.
    Stuff you can do yourself is what Mr. Honda put second on his list of must-haves right after dependability and performance.

    It’s the Honda Factory Creed!

  671. Arctic_Moose  July 8th

    love it 129CBRider. I must ask what does the 129 represent?

  672. 129CBRider  July 18th

    Actic, the 129 is the highway designation for The Dragon up in Western North Carolina. I have a cabin just over the Cherohala Skyway in Tellico Plains, TN and make a 250 mile loop quite often on the 919 which takes in The Dragon in the middle of the ride.

  673. 129CBRider  July 18th

    My favorite weekend up there is to ride my John Deere ten speed down to the Town Square Restaurant in Tellico Plains, strike up a conversation with some sport bike riders there who are heading up the Cherohala Skyway to get to The Dragon. I then rush home 3 blocks, get my leathers on, jump on the 919 and see how far up the 56 mile Cherohala it takes me to catch them. Then when they stop at one of the scenic overlooks and I take off my helmet it always gets great laughs because I’m in my mid 60′s and they usually have asked me about the John Deere bicycle at the restaurant so they know who I am. Best one tho was catching 3 sportbike guys from Germany on my ’96 MZ 660 single, lol. They were like, “That’s an MZ??!!”

  674. Jorge  August 6th

    Hey guys. Just because I don’t contribute it oesn’t mean that I don’t read what you have to say. I have looked at the new fuel miser Hondas. I’m still happy with my 900/919. I’m hooked on feedback. It’s 17 degrees cantigrade here. We ride right through winter down under. Has everybody sold their Hornet/919s?

  675. Weeds  September 7th

    Guess I need some help?
    I live in Il. and commute on the 919 just about every day for 7 mo. rain or shine. 03 stock with e41′s and opt. e34 top case. 2 mo. a yr. in Cal north of L.A. canyon riding and camping. Try the Ventura pack in the passenger space and you could just about live on the road. Sold on Michilin Power Pures for all weather rain or shine.
    After 20 yr’s not riding I adopted this bike immediately after riding it for two test drives in a row. Couldn’t believe how agile and the hp to weight. But in the fourth yr. of riding it, I still, at 6′ 2″, feel like I’m on top of the bike and not in it. It just doesn’t feel the way the 72 commando combat did. like the bike and I were as one.
    I’ve looked at the 2010 Honda VFR 1200 but I want lighter, not heavyer. What the he@* choices do I have to get that old combat feeling back again. At 290 lbs. the commando didn’t care if it was drifting gravel road curves or at 110 on the highway. I’ve run the 919 down plenty of gravel roads and It’s not at home there. Trust me, it’s not at home there. With full leathers and 6 shots of Old Crow it’s still not at home there.
    I want this hp. and sport agility but less pucker effect when I cross some limestone crumbled onto the road in a canyon road curve.
    Sorry I rambled on. Is anyone out there still.

  676. Nucym  September 29th

    It’s been a great summer to ride. I just found out the Dragon is only 130 miles from Chattanooga, TN. I would like to ride the Dragon before the summer’s out. My 2007 919 is ready for the trip. New Lithium battery from Batteries Plus is amazingly light and cost as much as they wanted for a new battery at the dealer. I added two Tourmaster side bags to the round Tourmaster dufffle that goes accross the passenger seat. The bags made the bike much more usefull and will help on the trip. I also have a cheap nylon throttle lock I use alot. I will take some pictures of the bike and post them here soon. Sorry to hear about Graynomad, I enoyed his posts. Good riding to all.

  677. Nucym  September 29th

    Weeds, thanks for the post about the valves being OK at 38,000. I lean toward the if it’s not broken don’t fix it and my bike is running great. I also believe in preventive maintenance but there’s been no signs off valve misadjustment. Does anyone else have any data points on when to check valve adjustment on the 919?

  678. Arctic_Moose  October 23rd

    7th season of riding my 919 almost coming to and end. For anyone who is wondering about the 919 it has lots of power to be fun, but if your looking for crazy ass power this is not the bike for you. That being said it is more than enough bike for me and I still love it. Arctic_Moose

  679. Weeds  October 31st

    I’m sure I saw a post in her about a Kawasaki steering stabilizer fitted to the 919. I ride one handed quite a bit and the bigger bumps at road speed tend to make things interesting. Hoping it will also reduce some of the dive in on curves. Does anyone remember seeing that post? It was quite detailed and specific about which stabilizer and the fitment.
    Any ideas would be appreciated. Weeds

  680. Arctic_Moose  November 2nd

    i have seen one fitted to a 919 but I am afraid I don’t know who made it.

  681. Arctic_Moose  March 12th

    It”s a new year an I can’t wait to fire up the nine one nine. A few more weeks and this snow will be just a bad memory. So I need my valves adjusted according to the manufacture. I hate the thought of opening her up and having someone tinker with it.
    On a happier thought I love my bike.


  682. jorge  November 24th

    Every now and then I wonder what kind of bikes these worthy riders have bought.

  683. Arctic_Moose  March 21st

    Wow a full year has come and gone since my previous posts. I guess this site has died. It has been a record setting winter here on the east cost of Canada. I’m hoping 2015′s summer is long and hot.

  684. Arctic_Moose  January 29th

    2015 and my 919 performed flawless as usual. I changed her brake pads all the way around, EBC pads an a new rear skin.
    Miss all of your posts and comments. Come on summer 2016.

  685. Wulfgang  February 2nd

    Greetings from the sceptic islands, well they’re not the that bad but the weather’s wet and shitty and it’s dark most of the time. Bike’s in the garage with a cover over it, waiting for the seat to come back with a new cover and some gel pads installed. This old arse is looking forward to a kinder riding experience. Am about to fit a new radiator as the wonderful silica infused road salt the local authority use to stop ice forming on the highway eats aluminium with a voracity similar to flesh eating piranhas. This’ll be no.4 however I’m quite pleased to say that ebay introduced me to some very nice chinese people who sent me two radiators for £36 each plus carriage not the £500 Mr Honda required. At least It’s an easy job unlike replacing the throttle cables what a bitch that was. Luckily I have three hands a ten inch surgical clamp and a headtorch. Maybe I should take up a gynaecology or proctology as a hobby following that particular procedure. Anyway enough of my moaning the Hornet now with 70,000 miles on it is still purring like a kitten or, snarling like a tiger. When, I take the baffles out of the Mivv X-cone tailpipes I fitted a couple of years ago. Have to be a little thoughtful about the feelings of others when I do this as they are very loud. The sound they make as you accelerate through the gears at the top of the rev limit is pure petrolhead euphoria though and consequently highly addictive. As you can tell this gives rise to an internal conflict for the socially responsible adult and the mostly suppressed devil within. Talking of devils. Met a riding buddy of mine in the local supermarket carpark the other day. He’s a pensioner and full of fun bought himself a dirtbike back in the
    spring. Now apparently the parish magazine is full of letters about anti social youths riding m-cycles on local footpaths. It’s hardly lock up your daughters time just a tiny bit of rebellion that brings a smile to the lips and puts a sparkle in the eye. Lastly have not posted for a long time and was remiss in failing to express my sadness at the passing of Mr Greynomad. Self lubricating with a very seemly Merlot what a treet that post was. Let’s hope we can train a new generation to carry the torch of motorcycling idiocy and fun into the future.

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